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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:41 AM
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Iran and Syria could carve up Iraq to stabilize it
If we want to stabilize Iraq today, we should talk to Syria and Iran about joining in with peacekeeping forces and take over govt control in policing and governing.

This really is the only solution, and will likely occur within 10 years anyways.

All of the old Iraqi army is against the US forces, so it really is a uprising and a revolution against the current Iraqi govt.

The only problem is that the oil needs to be safeguarded.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:46 AM
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1. You left out Turkey and Jordan and Saudi Arabia.
"The only problem is that the oil needs to be safeguarded." yeah just that tiny little problem of 'the oil'.

We are not going to get to decide what happens in Iraq, and until figure out that:
a) we do not own Iraq,
b) we do not own Iraq's oil,
c) our only move is to get out;
we are going to be stuck in Iraq spinning our bloody wheels on our blown to shit humvees.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:51 AM
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2. Yup. Not to mention that Syria is a balancing act itself.
Syria is ruled by a small minority sect which is neither Sunni nor Shiite. Bringing in more Sunnis or Shiites to the political mix ain't gonna be a help to them. (So was I told by my friend Alice who got it from her Jordanian husband, Mohammed, who is our authority on all things Middle East.)
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 12:24 PM
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3. Don't forget Kuwait.
"Greater Kuwait" is just waiting to be born.
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:19 PM
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7. good idea
I think that all countries will have spheres of influence.
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:24 PM
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8. but there will be a bloody civil war nonetheless
after wee leave iraq
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 06:59 PM
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9. I think you meant that the bloody civil war will continue.
However without our undefeatable force superiority the conflict will actually be able to come to a resolution. As it is the civil war cannot end as we won't allow it to.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 01:07 PM
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4. Like hell they could.
Iran is Farsi, NOT ARAB, and that is paramount. Sharing a religion is not as important as not sharing ethnicity.

It would be like the US suddenly annexing Mexico because of the trouble in Chiapas and the post election disturbances in Oaxaca. Hey, we're both Christian countries, no?

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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 01:26 PM
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5. Leaving a really major problem, the Kurds.
Turkey is already on the verge of taking action, if not already engaged under the surface, as we are in Iran. The Kurds do not have the oil revenue. Will we maintain permanent bases there as has already suggested?
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:18 PM
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6. i don't think turkey will take action
imo
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