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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 07:58 PM
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Poll question: Who will be blamed if Kerry loses in November?
We know that George Bush can't legitimately win an election. So, if Kerry gets the nomination, and manages to lose, who will get the blame.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:00 PM
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1. liberals and Progressive who stay home or vote 3rd party
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:07 PM
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8. and the dem party owns their votes?
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:48 PM
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16. Right, that's who'll be blamed alright
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:01 PM
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2. the Democratic Party, thats you and me folks
like it or not, we're all in this together.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:01 PM
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3. Four placed to put blame:
1-The "Librul" Media
2-Liberals who stay home
3-Dean supporters who stay home
4-KKKarl Rove
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:02 PM
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4. If Kerry can't get the votes to win it's his own damned fault.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:05 PM
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5. The DLC will blame Democratic voters for not picking
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 08:06 PM by stickdog
a Republican.
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:05 PM
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6. Gee, this is a terribly positive thread.
:eyes:

If Bush can't "legitimately" win an election, that presumes he did something to make it illegitimate. Therefore, it is either his fault or the fault of someone in his administration.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:06 PM
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7. Diebold
nt
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:08 PM
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9. Whoever helps advance the individual's agenda and rhetoric
You can't blame an election loss on any one thing, so people can have lots of fun justifying everything and anything based on an electoral loss. Take 2000: Greens will say "see, we won't vote for the lesser evil--you need to move left", whereas the DLC will say "see, populism doesn't work--you need to move right."
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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:09 PM
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10. other

The establishment Democratic Party will be blamed.

But this is a longshot. Anyone will be able to beat Chimpy by November.

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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:11 PM
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11. The Party
They panicked and grabbed on to the first guy who won anything.

JK is what he is, for better or worse. If he fails, it will be for reasons people could have known before they picked him.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:11 PM
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12. I voted "not electable." However, I will pray every day..
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 08:13 PM by Kahuna
that he is. Believe me. If Kerry can pull this off, he will be tops in my book. Then we will all need to let him know that he works for us.

Also (adding this on edit), whomever the nominee is (presumably, Kerry), we will need to be every bit as supportive as Bush's supporters will be. Even more so. Bush has the bully pulpit and the media. Our voices will need to be louder than theirs. <stepping off of my soapbox now)
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:17 PM
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13. The DLC for unfairly targeting fellow Dems who are NOT
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 08:17 PM by revcarol
same-o, same-o "status quo, let's do it like we always have!We just like corporations better than people."
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:18 PM
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14. as so many kind people have said on this blog
it's the votes stupid if he can't get the votes is his fault and no one else. Please chew on this bit of crow for awhile.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:25 PM
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15. You! I'll blame you!
:) (kidding)
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YouMustBeKiddingMe Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:03 PM
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17. That would depend on why he lost. Can't know that now. But
he's not going to lose.:D
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Exgeneral Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:04 PM
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18. What do you mean "IF"
Face facts,

WHEN.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:06 PM
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19. It's all Dean's fault...
Hell, Pharoh blamed Moses's 12 plagues on Dean....
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:23 AM
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20. Other.
I will blame myself. Didn't work hard enough, etc.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:40 AM
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21. all of us who didn't gush love for Dean
How dare we.

It's inevitable. There will be lots of finger-pointing if that happens. I'll point my finger at the party for accelerating the already too-short primary season, thus stampeding the herd.

It's laughable, in light of recent events, how cocksure so many people were about the Dean upsurge, and it may well seem equally silly how the frenzied mob clambered to Kerry so quickly.

While we're discussing some of the dynamics, here's another annoying reminder of the faddishness of it all.

Ever notice how Clark was Dean-lite? (Think about it, he was mortal knight-in-shining-armor as opposed to a full-on Messiah...)

The Dean message was that "all the rest of you guys are turncoat losers, only I am fit to lead."

The Clark message was that "none of you could get it together, that's why I've been reluctantly called to greatness by the true of heart."

There's still plenty of time for both of them to muck it up some more.

As for who we can blame if Kerry gets the nomination--something far from certain, mind you--the big culprit is the panicky impatience that allowed us to have a short primary season. By any measure, it was an idiotic decision, and may hurt us as badly as it did in '84. (We could have had Hart in '84, and he could have won...)
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2004Donkeys Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 02:01 AM
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22. He won't lose
n/t
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 02:10 AM
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24. Welcome to DU 2004Donkeys!
I like your attitude!

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HazMat Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 02:09 AM
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23. Howard Dean --a man of zero integrity- for destroying the Democratic Party
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 02:19 AM
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25. The Democratic Primary Voters
For not being smart enough to nominate Wes Clark.

DTH
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 02:22 AM
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26. Every single voter
in the 12 states he's won who voted for him.

A pox upon them if we lose!

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