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Bob Geiger Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 10:58 AM
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Bush Accuses Democrats Of Extending Troops - Right Before He Does


I'm not positive about this, but I think it's possible that the reporters at the daily White House press briefing -- and who are not named Helen Thomas, who never lets up -- are beginning to realize that they're reporting in a place rife with lies and inconsistencies and on people who insult their intelligence on a daily basis.

Dana Perino is filling in for Bush Spokesman Tony Snow and, while she may be somewhat new at handling the White House's main propaganda platform, I have to say that she can weasel right up there with the likes of Snow and our all-time favorite Bush apologist, Scott "The Lyin' King" McClellan.

But she was hit yesterday by a persistent reporter who looked under the hood of George W. Bush going before a group of Veterans and claiming Democrats were playing politics that may extend the tours of some troops in Iraq -- when King George already knew that he was going to announce within 24 hours his administration extending the tours of almost every soldier serving there.

So, Bush was accusing Democrats of possibly doing what he already knew he was about to do. Yes, it’s bizarro world, folks.

Here's Bush before American Legion Post 177 in Fairfax, Virginia on Tuesday:
"If Congress fails to pass a bill I can sign by mid-May, the problems grow even more acute. The Army will be forced to consider slowing or even freezing funding for its depots, where the equipment our troops depend on is repaired. They will have to consider delaying or curtailing the training of some active duty forces, reducing the availability of those the force -- of those forces to deploy overseas. And the Army may also have to delay the formation of new brigade combat teams, preventing us from getting those troops into the pool of forces that are available to deploy.

"So what does that mean? These things happen: Some of our forces now deployed in Afghanistan and Iraq may need to be extended, because other units are not ready to take their places….

"The bottom line is this: Congress's failure to fund our troops will mean that some of our military families could wait longer for their loved ones to return from the front lines. Others could see their loved ones headed back to war sooner than anticipated. This is unacceptable. It's unacceptable to me, it's unacceptable to our veterans, it's unacceptable to our military families, and it's unacceptable to many in this country."
Of course, when Bush made this statement he already knew that this was not actually the likely result of Democratic efforts to bring the war to an end and he knew that it was he who was going to extend the time of almost every soldier in Iraq -- in other words, he lied to and misled the Vets he was talking to.

And the press actually caught it.

Here's excerpts of Perino trying to fend off the challenge (emphasis is mine):
Q: Dana, on the supplemental, on Tuesday the President said that because the Democrats have not gotten this in yet -- "The failure to fund our troops will mean some of our military families could wait longer for their loved ones to return from the front lines, others could see their loved ones headed back to war sooner." Why did the President mention -- this is a day before his own Pentagon is going to announce that, actually, those loved ones are going to stay in harm's way longer. And he clearly had to know that this policy was going to take place, that the deployments were going to be stretched from 12 months to 15 months. So why did he tell the American Legion that people would be staying in Iraq longer because of the Democrats, when his own Pentagon, 24 hours later, was going to keep people there longer?

Perino: Well, one, I don't know if the President knew about the -- the meeting -- remember, yesterday morning is when Secretary Gates came and talked to the President. But also, Secretary Gates was talking about a longer-term policy, to make sure that the dwell times are going to be long enough so that we can keep our troops refreshed and get them time with their family. The long-term goal, ultimate goal is to have for active duty one year deployed with two years off, and then for reservists, one year on and five years off.

We have never said that if we got the money immediately tomorrow, that folks would be able to have just a 12-year deployment and a 12-year dwell time. Every day that we don't get the money is one that, as Secretary Gates and General Pace have said, creates problems in terms of the training. And so by piecemeal, you see some troops have been there for 16 months, and that's what we're trying to avoid.

Q: But if the President really wants certainty for the families, he had an opportunity before the American Legion, a highly respected veterans organization, to say, you know what, for certainty's sake for these families, tomorrow we're going to announce a pretty big change. They're going to stay in harm's way longer. Why wasn't he straightforward with the American Legion about his own policy?

Perino: I think the President was absolutely straightforward. And remember, I don't -- I know that Secretary Gates came and talked to the President yesterday morning, so that speech you're talking about was last Tuesday. We've known for a while that we're going to have to --

Q: Two days ago, the speech.

Perino: Yes, two days ago, right.

Q: And so the President didn't know about his own policy until Wednesday?

Perino: I'm not aware that the President knew that there was going to be -- that Secretary Gates had come to any decisions. But we did know that people, one, needed more certainty, because that had been a complaint and that's one that we had heard about; and two, we need to make sure that we can get the money for the troops so that the readiness issue, the training issue -- because if the troops here can't be trained, which is one of the issues that Gates and Pace said is a problem of not having the money now -- if they can't be trained, then you can't get the fresh troops out in the field. And that means that the people who are there have to stay longer.

And so I guess the way I would put it is that it gets better than it would otherwise be if we get the money today, and it gets worse than it would otherwise be if we don't.
Obviously it's not big news that Bush lied and distorted again… But the question is, now that they've removed from their own arsenal the bogus charge that Democrats are going to extend the troops in Iraq, what will Republicans think of next as their twisted rationale of supporting the troops by keeping them under fire in Iraq forever?

You can read more from Bob at BobGeiger.com.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:02 AM
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1. K&R
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:13 AM
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2. If only they ALL would do this.
I never understood this thing about "access." If all the reporters said "I'm going to report the news, like it or not," then the WH would have been forced to deal with reporters on actual journalistic terms. If the reporters were denied access, then this becomes the story. "The WH has denied our reporters access because we refused to do X, Y and Z." The few who pander (i.e. Faux) look, even to the average idiot, like they are pandering and will lose creditability.

This pandering nonsense never makes sense to me. I went to J-School. I was fortunate enough to be at the top J-School on the West Coast and had the privilege of having some incredible professors. They included LA Times reporters, former press secretaries to the Kennedy's, people who claim Murrow and Cronkite as their personal mentor. These people instilled in me the concept of access and how it can lead to corruption. They also warned us that American Journalism was on the decline and to actually be a reporter, one must work for an independent agency, a foreign press, or simply go overseas and report. This was 10 years ago. It's alarming to see all their predictions come to the surface.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:25 PM
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4. What They Really Mean is "Karl Rove Will Call my Boss & Get Me Fired"
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:51 PM
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5. Exactly. Can you imagine the public scandal when a slew of reporters are getting fired on the whim
of the WH?

I know, pipe dreams.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:16 PM
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3. Extended tours are mentioned in the Kagan plan, the one that
Edited on Fri Apr-13-07 01:16 PM by slipslidingaway
hardly received any attention. While the media kept everyone focused on the ISG report, the Kagan plan, which included the surge and mentioned extending tours from 12 to 15 months hardly received any press coverage.

It would be great if this same persistent reporter, whose first name is Ed, asked whether or not Bush had read the Kagan plan.


Choosing Victory

http://www.aei.org/publications/pubID.25292/pub_detail.asp

A Plan for Success in Iraq
By Frederick W. Kagan
Posted: Thursday, December 14, 2006

snip>>

"This approach requires a national commitment to victory in Iraq:

The ground forces must accept longer tours for several years. National Guard units will have to accept increased deployments during this period."



Link to report posted on DU by scarletwoman.

Stalingrad on the Tigris?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2932890&mesg_id=2932890
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 03:02 PM
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6. Don't forget: Gates was furious about the leak
I don't have a link, but I think it was yesterday or Wednesday in the news that Defense Secretary Gates was livid about the leak regarding extending military tours. The stated reason for his outrage was that it short-circuited the process of notifying the troops, who instead found out from media reports that they were getting screwed over.

But was the real reason for Gates' anger because it took away the Bush administration argument that these extensions were due to the Democratic Congress' "failure to fund our troops"? As usual, it's all in the timing. If the extensions were announced on the administration's timetable, even if they'd been in the works for weeks as you know they have been, then they can still plausibly argue that it's all the Democrats' fault. And they know that the mighty Republican Wurlitzer will wheeze into action and back them up. But when the tour extensions are announced prematurely, long before the date when the funding allegedly runs out, the only people who get blamed are the architects of the war. Oopsie.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 03:05 PM
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7. Whoops I duped you
sorry I looked but didn't see it

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