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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 11:48 AM
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Edwards Leads ALL Republican Candidates - Press Punditocracy Not Withstanding
Edited on Thu Apr-12-07 11:50 AM by ddeclue
The Press Punditocracy is at it again, trying to pick our Democratic candidate for us and not telling us the real story.

Jay Carney at Times Magazine just wrote a piece entitled "Poll: A Surprising G.O.P. Edge in '08" which pretends that Democrats will only be choosing between Hillary and Obama and which totally ignores Edwards.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1604469,00.html?cnn=yes

Once Mr. Carney has contrived this misleading scenario that ignores Senator Edwards, he can then support his incorrect premise that the Republicans are leading the Democrats in the race for the White House.

Sorry, Mr. Carney but your piece is simply wrong on the facts because it has overlooked John Edwards in what is very obviously a still three way race in the Democratic Party.

According to Rasmussen Reports there is only ONE Democratic candidate who beats ALL Republican candidates at this point and his name is JOHN EDWARDS.

The voters out there already know what Mr. Carney and the other pundits don't want to acknowledge in their pontificating - that John Edwards is the best candidate for the job and THE Democratic candidate that beats all Republicans.

Here's the numbers and the Rasmussen Poll links that back them up follow:

Edwards vs. Thompson 50-36
Edwards vs. McCain 47-38
Edwards vs. Romney 55-29
Edwards vs. Huckabee 50-33

No other Democrat beats ALL of the Republicans.

Doug D.
Orlando, FL

See:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Political%20Tracking/Presidential%20Match-Ups/April%202007/Edwardsvs.ThompsonGiuliani20070409.htm

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Political%20Tracking/Presidential%20Match-Ups/March%202007/McCainvs.Edwards20070330.htm

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Political%20Tracking/Election%202008/Election2008EdwardsMatch-Up20061128.htm
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 11:50 AM
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1. although early polls may not mean much, those are big margins, too
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 11:51 AM
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2. my husband swears Edwards will take the whole shebang n/t
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 11:55 AM
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3. My husband swears he won't.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 12:06 PM
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5. how's his track record?
Mr. Az's is pretty good
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 12:08 PM
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6. Don't know - but I believe the same, particularly if F. Thompson
gets in the race and my track record is 100 percent - including the Gore fiasco. I knew Bush would take it. I just didn't know how.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 12:09 PM
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7. The latest Rasmussen poll has Edwards crushing Thompson 50-36
Doug D.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 06:28 PM
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11. I guess Rasmussen didn't call her husband. n/t
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 06:35 PM
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12. Guess not...
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 10:32 PM
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16. ROFL...
Edited on Thu Apr-12-07 10:33 PM by ClassWarrior
Some people just don't see what fools they make of themselves and their candidates, do they?

NGU.


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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 11:55 AM
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4. YES!!!
:applause:
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 12:18 PM
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8. That certainly reflects his favorability numbers
as well as his crossover appeal. My entire circle of Republican family and friends "like him" :loveya:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 12:23 PM
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9. Strong margins. CLinton and Obama are leading or tied with all Repubs, too.
(Within one point is a tie, considering the MOE)
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Political%20Tracking/Presidential%20Match-Ups/2008DemocraticPresidentialMatchups.htm

Still, nothing like Edwards's leads.

What's odd is that he's trailing in the matchups against Clinton and Obama by large margins http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Political%20Tracking/Democratic%20Primaries/DemocraticPresidentialPrimary.htm , which means that he's drawing independents and maybe conservatives. This page shows how voters view the Democratic candidates. Edwards is viewed by 9% as conservative, 32% as moderate, but only 42% as liberal. Hillary's numbers are similar, except for the liberals, where she is viewed by 52% as liberal. What this might mean, since many Democrats see Edwards as liberal and Hillary as moderate, is that independents and conservatives see Hillary as too liberal, and Edwards as less liberal, thus more acceptable to them. (Not arguing that that's an accurate perception, just that it non-liberals might be interpreting the candidates that way). The articles bare that out to some degree, showing Edwards leading amongst Independents.

Another interesting aspect of the primary matchup is the change in polls. Hillary is pretty steady, with about a third of voters favoring her, while Obama goes up when Edwards falls and down while Edwards rises. That could be bad for Clinton, even though she is in first, because it implies that if Edwards or Obama drops out or falls way behind, the votes would go to the other, and not to Clinton.

If Edwards can firm up that national support of independents (it's still soft, since his numbers have just reached that level), he could rise in the primary polls, too, as people would start to think of him as the most winnable. He's made tremendous strides in the last month or so, and has shown some clever campaigning at times, like when Coulter attacked him. That should start to result in him climbing in the primary polls, too.

Just my analysis. Probably wrong, as always. Not trying to favor any candidate, just analysing what I see, cause I'm bored at work. :)
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 03:31 PM
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10. Edwards is doing well with Dems in IA and NH however..
The national polls don't mean much as far as the primary election is concerned.

State by state is what matters in the primaries.

Doug D.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:25 PM
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13. Until I learn something to change my mind, Edwards is my choice for Dem nominee.
:thumbsup:
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:33 PM
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14. The fact that the corporate media is
ignoring Edwards and Clark means that they have a chance to win. It's amazing to me that some DUers don't get that. Even with this latest poll evidence, they will not accept it.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 10:19 PM
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15. Very impressive. If Edwards keeps this up, he'll be in great shape.
:hi:
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 12:40 AM
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17. I have little doubt that he will be the next president.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:24 AM
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18. I believe Obama and Edwards both have a good chance
Edited on Fri Apr-13-07 01:26 AM by fujiyama
of taking the presidency. McCain's mythic maverick image is fading. He looks old, bitter, cranky, and with his recent stunt - delusional and warped from reality. His fundraising is anemic.

Rudy's got baggage and he's batshit crazy. I think once he shows his true self, he'll implode.

The others are well...awful. Thompson? Oh yeah that guy that was on Law and Order...and some B movies back in the day? LOL (but I won't dismiss him if he runs - he could be tough)...

I'm still not sure who I support...I also like Richardson, but it's obvious from the numbers that a huge percentage of people simply will NOT vote for Hillary. You don't want to start off that way. Edwards (and Obama to some extent) are quickly gaining with independents and people not strongly affiliated with either party...
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 04:29 PM
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19. He will trounce all of them!
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AshevilleGuy Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 06:21 PM
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20. The Dem top players (machine) have access to these numbers.
Will this change their agenda??

I doubt it.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 06:41 PM
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21. Edwards / Obama !!!!!!!! nt
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