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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:08 AM
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Hillary Clinton: Attacks won't scare me off
USA Today: Clinton: Attacks won't scare me off
By Jill Lawrence, USA TODAY


(By Tim Dillon, USA TODAY)
Sen. Hillary Clinton visited Fort Drum, N.Y., home of the Tenth Mountain Division, the most deployed unit in the Army, talking with about fifty wounded soldiers there Tuesday.

FORT DRUM, N.Y. — Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton says the pain and turmoil of her White House years don't discourage her in the least as she wages a campaign she hopes will bring her back to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

"I've decided this country is worth fighting for," she said, adding she is "distraught" about the last six years under President Bush.

In a half-hour interview this week at the home of the Army's 10th Mountain Division, Clinton discussed her revised approach to health care reform and her daughter's view of her presidential aspirations. She also talked of why, after eight tumultuous years as first lady, she wants to return to the White House.

Contemplating possible slings and arrows on the campaign trail, she said, "So what, people are going to say something bad about me?" She burst out laughing. "I mean really. I mean look. I understand how contentious American politics is. And why? Because there are big things at stake."

Clinton said she doesn't take attacks personally or lie awake fretting. "I'm sorry to tell you this, I do not … Maybe because I've been at it for so long. And because I understand it's a perverse form of flattery. If people didn't take you seriously, they wouldn't be attacking you."

Clinton dismissed the idea that decades of alternating Bush and Clinton presidencies is unhealthy. "What's healthy for the country is to have a candidate who brings experience and qualifications that could really be put to work for the country, and that's what I'm offering," she said. "It's a free country. People can vote for me or vote for somebody else."...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-04-11-hillary_N.htm
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:11 AM
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1. Great quotes and correct in all accounts
"If people didn't take you seriously, they wouldn't be attacking you."


Clinton dismissed the idea that decades of alternating Bush and Clinton presidencies is unhealthy. "What's healthy for the country is to have a candidate who brings experience and qualifications that could really be put to work for the country, and that's what I'm offering," she said. "It's a free country. People can vote for me or vote for somebody else."...
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:13 AM
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2. Nice
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:15 AM
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3. Good for you Sen. Clinton.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:16 AM
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4. Good stuff. nt
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:35 AM
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5. "electronic medical records" is her big goal for healthcare? (nt)
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:39 AM
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6. Nice try. Here's exactly what she said, concerning that...
Edited on Thu Apr-12-07 09:40 AM by mtnsnake
She is now working with other lawmakers to expand coverage for children and says that first step should happen "before I'm president." The next step, she said, could be electronic medical records, for a $100 billion savings that could be used to help insure the uninsured.


You got a problem with her helping children or saving $100 billion dollars?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:42 AM
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7. I'm concerned that she's pushing for "electronic medical records" to centralize more information on
Edited on Thu Apr-12-07 09:42 AM by w4rma
people. I think any cost savings is only a side effect.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 01:25 PM
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10. * centralizing medical records *
Edited on Thu Apr-12-07 02:08 PM by AtomicKitten
It is a drive to centralize and computerize patient information, i.e., past medical and surgical history, family history, allergies, medications, lab results, pathology results, consultations by specialists, etc., for better accessibility and more precise, more efficient medical care to cut down on the needless deaths via current crap institutional hospital care routines.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:44 AM
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8. She declined to say whether she would offer a proposal for universal health care
Edited on Thu Apr-12-07 09:44 AM by draft_mario_cuomo
Her campaign is largely based on her "experience" yet she still has no idea whether she is going to offer a plan to deal with such an important issue?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 12:26 PM
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9. Nice try in word twisting..and taking words out of context
The complete quote is this:

"she declined to say whether she'll offer a plan for universal coverage in her campaign.


hardly denoting the same meaning as your deliberate half baked quote.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 07:09 PM
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15. Which is very telling
Elections are supposed to be about ideas. On arguably the most important domestic issue in America she isn't sure if she will even bother offering a proposal. I guess the focus-group results aren't in yet. This is an illustration of why many people believe she views the nomination as an entitlement. How can a serious candidate with her vaunted experience be unsure what she is going to propose regarding such a critical issue? This reminds me of the vagueness of Bush II's coronation strategy in the 2000 primaries.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 01:33 PM
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11. You tell 'em Hil!
:loveya:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 01:36 PM
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12. "I've decided this country is worth fighting for,"
lol
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 07:10 PM
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16. You know that was a focus-grouped line!
This was a very illustrative interview. Where was the substance? Where were the ideas? Where was her vision? Her campaign message essentially is "vote for me because I married a guy who wound up becoming president."
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 11:13 PM
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17. That was just an interview about the campaign itself
but in that same edition of USA Today, she also talked about the treatment of our troops:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-04-11-hillary-vets_N.htm

USA Today just separated the interview into more than one article.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:32 PM
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28. Under a Hillary presidency, troops in Iraq will be better equipped for years to come.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 11:22 PM
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18. If you are gonna just spout tired cliches about Hillary...
That don't require any proof to be accepted...you could at least do it with a little style...

I mean, any Joe DU could come up with "You know that was a focus-grouped line!" I mean really, show a little imagination...facts are obviously not an issue...so be creative!
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:30 PM
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26. She'll keep this country safe for all corporate interests!
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 02:30 PM
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13. I didn' t think they would......scare her off, that is. n/t
Edited on Thu Apr-12-07 02:45 PM by Alamom



edsp
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churchofreality Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 02:34 PM
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14. Hillary kicks ass
Unless she screw up bigtime, she will win the whole thing easily.
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 11:51 PM
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19. ...."it's a perverse form of flattery."
Bwaa Ha ha! I love how she just rises above it. Every time. The right wing is a formidable opponent, but I have a lot of faith in Hillary. The GOP better come up with more substance than their conventional slimy attacks to win if she's the one nominated. It's going to take more than scuzz and lies to beat someone as savvy as Clinton.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 12:01 AM
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20. Yep, Hillary is made of tough stuff
the more the right wing throws at her, the stronger she gets.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 12:51 AM
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21. To all Obama supporters please
read this carefully and think why it is you hate HRC so much because of her Iraq vote but you turn a blind eye to what Obama did in the Senate election in Connecticut in 2006. Ted Lamont was the anti-war candidate that won the primary against Lieberman. Guess who supported Lieberman? uh huh Obama. Guess who supported the democratic party candidate Lamont? uh HRC...So who is loyal to the democratic party in this instance? HRC.

Also, Obama came to Connecticut to campaign for Lieberman before the primary, very carefully timing his appearance to try to kill Ned Lamont’s antiwar primary challenge before it got off the ground.

Then in the general election, he( Obama ) refused to lift a finger for Lamont. For a guy like Obama who runs around bragging about his antiwar credentials, yet who then spent most of his first year in Congress absolutely silent on the war - his behavior in the Connecticut Senate race says a lot about him as the supposed post-partisan conviction candidate.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 11:04 AM
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24. Please credit David Sirota
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 02:50 PM
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35. I can't believe people are still regurgitating this crap
Obama did what virtually every other Senate democrat did. He supported the democratic incumbent. After Lamont won the primary, Obama threw his support behind him, just like the other Senate dems.

If you truly believe Obama's actions were so egregious, I assume you also feel the same way about the actions of Hillary, Biden, Boxer, and pretty much every other democrat in the Senate.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 04:15 PM
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42. That is simply not true.
"Also, Obama came to Connecticut to campaign for Lieberman before the primary, very carefully timing his appearance to try to kill Ned Lamont’s antiwar primary challenge before it got off the ground."

He was at a state Democratic fundraiser. Here are his remarks.

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/04/02/164/90446

"I know that some in the party have differences with Joe," Senator Obama said, all but silencing the crowd. "I'm going to go ahead and say it. It's the elephant in the room. And Joe and I don't agree on everything. But what I know is, Joe Lieberman's a man with a good heart, with a keen intellect, who cares about the working families of America."

Then, with applause beginning to build, he finished the thought: "I am absolutely certain that Connecticut's going to have the good sense to send Joe Lieberman back to the United States Senate." That time, people cheered loudly."

This was on March 31st. Its effect on the race was ZERO.

In contrast Obama sent out an e-mail endorsement of Lamont 2 weeks before the election asking for time, money and votes.

http://nedlamont.com/blog/1976/barack-obama-writes-emails

Barack Obama Writes Emails
(Barack Obama sent out an email to his CT list supporting Ned Lamont earlier today – Tim)

Ned Lamont has waged an impressive grassroots campaign to give the people of Connecticut a choice in the November Senate election. He has a vision for his state and country, and his campaign has been about presenting that vision to Connecticut voters.

Ned Lamont and I share a commitment to bringing our troops home safely from Iraq, to achieving energy independence, to helping all our citizens realize the American dream, and to empowering the American people to reclaim their government. Ned Lamont’s campaign is about delivering on these goals in Washington.

The November 7th election is right around the corner. Please join me in supporting Ned Lamont with your hard work on-the-ground in these closing weeks of the campaign.

http://www.nedlamont.com/downthestretch

We all watched Ned’s improbable primary victory two months ago. His campaign generated a record turnout that saw 30,000 new Democrats vote to change course at home and abroad.

Ned earned the Democratic Senate nomination through his hard work and clear message. And his victory paved the way for an entire crop of Democratic challengers to stand up and fight for the common good. Today the candidacies of Diane Farrell, Joe Courtney and Chris Murphy are integral to the Democrats’ strategy to regain the majority in the U.S. House of Representatives.

A majority of Connecticut Democrats supported Ned Lamont in the August primary. I hope they will see this impressive movement through to the end by volunteering their time with Ned in these next two weeks.

http://www.nedlamont.com/downthestretch

Sincerely,



U.S. Senator Barack Obama

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 12:58 AM
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22. HRC has sped past "tough" and right into "offensive."
I'm sick of swaggering politicians, regardless of gender.

HRC is overplaying the "tough woman image" and it's just seemingly scripted and NOT a good acting ... not at all.

When I see HRC act like "I'm a getting tough now. Look at me!" I want to blow chow. :puke:

Insincere + Phony will not work. :thumbsdown:
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 04:08 PM
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38. It sure sounds like a hustle
We need more than focus group slogans.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:26 AM
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23. decades of alternating Bush/Clinton presidencies IS unhealthy
this isn't a fucking monarchy
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:29 PM
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25. "People can vote for me or vote for somebody else" damn right. we will. HC promises war....
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:31 PM
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27. "American troops would not play a role in trying to curb sectarian violence."
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:33 PM
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29. US troops do not belong in Iraq. though bush/clinton disagree.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:39 PM
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30. you are a supported of Dennis Kucinich, correct?
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:43 PM
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31. I support peace.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:48 PM
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32. Who do you support in the 2008 Democratic primaries?
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 02:27 PM
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33. no primary this year.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 02:36 PM
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34. So all of the candidates support war and none are worthy of your vote.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 02:54 PM
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36. No one is getting my vote this year, that's for damn sure.
Edited on Fri Apr-13-07 02:54 PM by Tom Joad
I said only that their is no Presidential primary this year. you replied to something you must have imagined, or to something someone else said.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 02:59 PM
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37. So all of the candidates support war and none are worthy of your vote.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 04:08 PM
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39. why do you keep saying that? it still makes no sense.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 04:11 PM
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40. bet you a million bucks not one candidate is going to get your vote this year
either!
Not unless your state allows really early voting.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 04:13 PM
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41. so you oppose stem cell research.
okay, i know that has nothing to do with what you posted... it is as off the mark as your bizarre response to my post.
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