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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:00 PM
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NBC -- get OVER yourselves! Lord almighty!
The whining from Capus about the holy reputation of NBC as an excuse for dumping Imus is truly pathetic.

This -- the network of Tim Russert.

This -- the network of Joe Scarborough.

This -- the network of Michael Savage.

This -- the network that dumped Phil Donahue.

This -- the network of "analysts" whose conflicts of interest are never mentioned. Blah!

"The public trust, the public trust, the public trust!"

"Our reputation, our reputation, our reputation!"

Come on, Capus. Do you not have any idea how many Americans despise what the MSM/NBC has become, especially in the last nine years?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:05 PM
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1. But having Tucker Carlson on every weeknight redeems MSNBC.
(end sarcasm)

Sam Seder would double Tucker Carlson's ratings if they replaced Carlson with Seder.


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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 05:31 PM
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7. Every time Bill Press is on that show...
... I remember the two of them on "Crossfire" and can't for the life of me figure out why Tucker's the one who got to host a new show. :crazy:
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NormanYorkstein Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 12:51 AM
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2. Capus is a sad joke, like the NBC network
How they can be considered "serious news" is beyond me.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 07:53 AM
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3. NBC - home of the only liberal talk show...Ohlbermann?
Why the vitriol against NBC? Savage isn't onl MSNBC. It's CNN that has Glenn Beck. Keith Ohlbermann (I can't ever remember how to spell his name) is the only defiantly liberal talk show on cable news stations, I think. And Scarborough is a pretty fair Republican talk show. I mean, if you're going to have one, Scarborough's not so bad.

Phil Donahue? WAsn't his show taken off like 20 years ago? To be replaced by Oprah? That is a GOOD thing for African Americans, right? Or was he taken off for something he said? As I recall it, it was to replace him with Oprah. Well, I just googled it and found that he returned for a brief stint in 2002. Maybe that's why he was pulled. No one was watching the show?

But I agree with teh idea that MSM has become too fixated on ratings and too much entertainment rather than straight news.

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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 07:58 AM
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4. From Eric Boehlert's "Lapdogs"
Excerpted here: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/05/04/lapdogs/

MSNBC was so nervous about employing an on-air liberal host opposing Bush's ordered invasion that it fired Phil Donahue preemptively in 2003, after an internal memo pointed out the legendary talk show host presented "a difficult public face for NBC in a time of war." MSNBC executives would not confirm -- nor deny -- the existence of the report, which stressed the corporate discomfort Donahue's show might present if it opposed the war while "at the same time our competitors are waving the flag at every opportunity." By canning Donahue, MSNBC made sure that cable viewers had no place to turn for a nightly opinion program whose host forcefully questioned the invasion. The irony was that at the time of Donahue's firing one month before bombs started falling on Baghdad, MSNBC officials cited the host's weak ratings as the reason for the change. In truth, Donahue was beating out Chris Matthews as MSNBC's highest-rated host.


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mantis49 Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:19 AM
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5. You're thinking of the wrong Phil Donahue show.
Edited on Thu Apr-12-07 09:23 AM by mantis49
A few years ago (2003) Phil Donahue had a show on MSNBC and was yanked after just a few months. My memory is fuzzy on this. MSNBC gave some lame excuse at the time. I think it all boiled down to not wanting to make waves, and Donahue was making them.

Edited to correct. I hadn't read the other response to this post yet and it refreshed my memory.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 05:35 PM
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8. Michael Savage used to have a weekend show on MSNBC.
Until he said something offensive to a gay caller.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 05:26 PM
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6. He also said that it wasn't a "financial" decision, either
Edited on Thu Apr-12-07 05:39 PM by rocknation
A network that prefers jailhouse documentaries and Dateline reruns to building a lineup around Keith Olbermann's success would CERTAINLY jump at the chance to dump a Bush-criticizing millionaire three years from retirement age!

:eyes:
rocknation
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 05:48 PM
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9. Where Jack Welch DEMANDED the NBC newsroom call Florida for Bush.
Where Elliot Abrams cousin, Dan, was allowed to speak derisively of John Kerry throughout the 2004 campaign - the same Senator Kerry whose investigations uncovered Elliot's IranContra crimes.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:33 PM
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10. Wow, I didn't know they were related
That should have been disclosed.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:51 PM
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11. You mean the Dan Abrams from MSNBC? His dad is Floyd Abrams,
who defended the NY Times in the Pentagon Papers case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_and_background_of_New_York_Times_Co._v._United_States

According to the following link, cousin Elliot is not exactly warmly welcomed in the Abrams household:

http://observer.com/20061218/20061218_Rebecca_Dana_media_specialnewsstory2.asp

Efrat, Mr. Abrams’ wife—a former Hebrew-school teacher and Guggenheim docent—is the only non-J.D. in the immediate family. (The extended Abramses include some non-lawyers—and Floyd’s first cousin Elliott, President Bush’s deputy national-security advisor, with whom the New York Abramses maintain distant, if not chilly, relations.)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 09:44 AM
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12. Dan is much more to the right of his father, and has been since joining MSNBC.
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