Dean's media guy criticizing Clark for Kerry endorsement does not help. .

[wndycty]

. . .get me into Dean's corner.

[maddezmom]

1. who and what is he saying?

[wndycty]

3. On Inside Politics

:kick:

[Adelante]

5. Saying Clark supporters will go for Dean

because he was the "only" anti-war candidate. Judy kindly corrected him about Kucinich. (fall over)

[maddezmom]

10. maybe wishful thinking

glad woodfluff corrected him about Kucinich being against the war.

[Casablanca]

15. Oh, Judy admits there is a Kucinich. How nice . nt

[wryter2000]

2. I know what you mean

I didn't appreciate "Kerry is no different from Bush," either. And I'm a Dean supporter. At least, so far.

[berner59]

9. what happened to Dean's comment....

...last weekend when he said he'd support whoever was the nominee??? His media guy makes it sound like Kerry is a repub and he's so far away from that...what happened to the "MA liberal"??? His campaign is sounding whiny when they just claim "they said this about us" crap...

[janx]

24. We don't have a nominee yet.

Why can't people understand that?

[disenfranchised]

29. Dean will endorse the nominee when the nominee is official.

Until then, he has every right to separate himself from Kerry. Kerry certainly attacked Dean in Iowa and New Hampshire. I wouldn't blame Dean if he plastered "Doubting Kerry's fidelity? Vote Dean" signs. But, he's not doing anything like that. He's pointing out differences in fundraising. Good for him and I'm not even a Dean supporter.

[returnable]

4. Bingo

How ya holding up, by the way?

[wndycty]

8. Sleeping. . .

. . .to tell the truth I was in so deep it sort of feels like I am on vacation. I got a full night's sleep last night and Tuesday night. I am working on a note to send out to the group. . .oh I got to see my parents yesterday. I am just doing all the things I have not done in the last 3 months.

[returnable]

16. Cool - you deserve the break

:toast:

[West Coast Democrat]

6. Is the Dean campaign is really turning dirty these days or what?

My goodness!

[YouMustBeKiddingMe]

13. "Turning" dirty?? Has been since Iowa and getting filthy since then!

[Casablanca]

22. So you missed the mudslinging in the debates? ...

Primary nastiness has been "in" since December. For Dean to get aggressive at this stage would be him fitting in, that's all.

Fortunately, I don't see him playing along with that game. But I do see a lot of people trying to make it appear if that were the case.

[displacedtexan]

7. You beat me to it. Steve McMahon

Dean's Media guy. And he once again, claimed that Dean was the only anti-war candidate left... and any Clark supporters who supported Clark's anti-war stance should now support Dean.

I thought DK was still running. Did I miss something?

[oasis]

17. Woodruff promptly corrected Mcmahon and made him acknowledge D.K.

[LZ1234]

19. I'm a Clark supporter but...

I will not support Dean. I will support Kerry.

[YouMustBeKiddingMe]

11. Of course more sour grapes from Dean

But, I can see where he was probably counting on anti-war support from Clark supporters to shore up his ailing campaign. Just saw that go down the tubes as well.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

12. what corner?

Dean is history.

[Justice]

14. Didn't Dean Say Two Weeks Ago that His Platform Was

was not just being anti-war? That it was the media that painted him as only being anti-war, but that his platform was much more than that?

So wouldn't it be logical that Clark would not look at the other candidates based on one issue? Just as Dean would not want to be looked at as a one issue candidate?

[stickdog]

18. Why is the Dean campaign dirty?

Did it run indefensible, Bush enabling attack ads?

Did it push poll reaction to "Judith Steinberg"?

[OKNancy]

20. Although I've voted

I've been thinking who I would support in a "virtual" way.
And even though Dean is anti-war.....I just don't like him. I don't like his demeanor, and I don't like those people around him.
Besides, no matter how the Dean people wish, he is toast. I know it's hard because as a Clark supporter, it's hard to face facts.

[xultar]

21. Ditto! For Clark Supporters who would have Gone Dean it is a bad move

Dean is still kewl though. HE is a fighter. I respect that.

[krkaufman]

28. Yes, a fighter...

... but he needs to keep his statements to facts, and cut the petty sniping and slander against Dems (e.g. Kerry/Clark are Republicans).

[polpilot]

23. "Wes Get in!!!!!! Get in!!!! Now Get out!! Get out!!! 'Endorse Kerry!'

Good soldier!!

Dean...Not the pro-war, pro-DLC candidate

[janx]

27. Yep. They tell him to get in, they tell him to get out,

and they tell him who to endorse.


This is sick and disappointing.

[krkaufman]

32. Oh, for dog's sake

What, you think Clark should have STAYED in the race? Gone majorly into debt? For what purpose? Clark faced an impossible task in the face of the Kerry media juggernaut, and demonstrated better judgement than numerous other candidates still flailing about.

Could he have stayed in? Sure. But I'm glad that he's not putting himself and his family into financial straits and through further abuse just for the sake of extending his candidacy.

Clark's focused on getting Bush out of the White House, rather than getting himself elected. Were that other considerably more hopeless campaigns as goal-oriented, we might have put forth the best candidate possible rather than the second best.

[Tom Rinaldo]

25. Give him half a break

Dean hasn't withdrawn yet, so of course he has say something to try to shift the voting dynamic toward Dean, otherwise why give him a paycheck?

Clark is about to endorse Kerry whose campaign was also always eager to paint Clark as a Republican. These guys have been trained to fight hard, and not always nice. Do I like it? No, but it is what it is. Of course Dean has to try to pull for Clark's voters now. Either that or withdraw. Dean needs SOMEONE'S voters for heavens sake. Dean was fully against going into Iraq. It is natural that he would try to appeal to Clark voters on that basis.

The only question is was Clark right to reach the determination that Kerry can't be stopped? I think the answer is yes. So should Dean pull out? No. Certainly not before the Wisconsin vote at the earliest. Dean raised a lot of money promising to fight on at least through Wisconsin. He is keeping his end of that bargain. And if Dean is still in the race, he needs to fight to win, and make the distinctions between himself and Kerry. His campaign needs to realize though that the tape recorders are running. If Dean loses the nomination as I expect he will, he has pledged to support the Democratic nominee, and he knows what he is saying now will get played back then.

[Maddy McCall]

26. sour grapes on Dean's behalf...

He would have given his firstborn child for Clark's endorsement.

[stickdog]

33. Yes.

Unfortunately any Kerry bastard fetches a lot more on the open market these days. ;-)

[jpgpenn]

30. That guy is a pompous peice of shit

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