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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 03:02 PM
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What does Drudge really know?
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 03:08 PM
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1. I have questions about Kerry
What's the deal with the Kerry bashing, and why do people believe he is so corrupt? I understand the resentment on the legislation he voted for, and I can see the concern over lobbying. Can you or any Kerry advocate smooth this issue?
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 03:40 PM
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3. His votes go hand in hand with his corruption
What is so difficult to understand? Looking at a man's life rather than his rhetoric?
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 03:56 PM
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4. Depends.
Of course Dean has to state that Kerry is corrupt. But Dean excludes fact from his own career as Governor, in which as much as 65 percent of his campaign contributions were raised from special interests:


"it's disturbing that Republican lawmakers, armed with $ 25,450 in donations from tobacco giant Philip Morris, weakened an anti-smoking bill in the final hours of the 1997 session." n9 Reports also described allegations that Governor Dean vetoed a pharmacy bill after collecting $ 6,000 in campaign contributions from drug companies. n10 State Treasurer Paul W. Ruse was "criticized <*16> for financing his campaign with contributions from Wall Street firms with which the state does business." n11 Another article stated that "Ruse even appeared in a magazine advertisement for an investment firm." n12


. The influence of out-of-state donations: "Outside money is one of Howard Dean's specialties. Of the $ 312,290 the governor raised for his 1996 election, 65 percent came from out-of-state contributors: labor unions, Washington lawyer-lobbyists, the health care industry, to name a few of the special interests." n13 For the 1994 election "Dean, for example, received more money from major pharmaceutical manufacturers during the reporting period ($ 11,000) thin he did from people and companies located in Burlington ($ 10,460)." n14 One editorial said, "it's no mystery why out-of-state contributors pumped hundreds of thousands of dollars into Vermont campaigns. ... They're trying to buy influence. But the cost is public trust." n15

http://www.brookingsinstitution.org/dybdocroot/gs/cf/headlines/cases/LandellvSorrell.DOC

On the otther hand, the source for Kerry's corruption is Dean, who interpreted data in a way that suited him, yet Kerry has one of the lowest lifeetime records of accepting PAC and Special Interest money:

John Kerry Ranks 92nd out of the 100 Senators in Contributions from Special Interest PACS and Lobbyists

Bush Raised More Lobbyist Funds in 2003 than Kerry Raised in Career



Spokane, WA– While Senator John Kerry has run and won four Senate races over the past 20 years, he ranks about the bottom of the list of current Senators in contributions from PACs and lobbyists.



“George Bush accepted more money last year from lobbyists than John Kerry has in his career,” said Kerry campaign Senior Advisor Michael Meehan. “John Kerry’s vote is not for sale, period. He is the only current Senator to run four campaigns without taking a dime of special interest PAC money.”



“John Kerry is one of the most successful Democrats over the past two decades and one of the party’s top fundraisers,” Meehan added. “Therefore it is understandable that Kerry, who has raised over $45 million from individuals in 20 years, would lead any particular sub-grouping of individual contributors.



“What is stunning is that despite his successful long service in the Senate, 91 other Senators beat Kerry in contributions from PACs and Lobbyists.”

http://www.politicsus.com/020304jkd.htm


Dena has associated Kerry reciving individual dinations from people involved who work for special interst groups as having recived money from special interests. If the same interpretation is applied to Dean, then Dean has raised twoce as much money as Kerry from a number of special interests:

Campus cash crucial to candidates
UC faculty, staff are among Democrat Howard Dean's biggest contributors

By Josh Richman, STAFF WRITER

Democratic presidential contender Howard Dean and President George W. Bush are big men on campus when it comes to fund raising, a campaign finance watchdog group has found.

And no U.S. university or college is friendlier to Dean than the University of California, the Center for Responsive Politics found in a study of presidential campaign contributors from the education sector. UC system faculty and staff had anted up $51,124 for the former Vermont governor by Sept. 30, more than twice the amount given by donors from the next-closest university on the list -- Harvard, at $24,150

Dean collected almost $719,000 from education interests through Sept. 30, ranking that sector third most-lucrative behind retirees ($1.6 million) and lawyers ($932,000).

Among other contenders for the Democratic presidential nomination, education is the 10th most lucrative sector ($325,915) for U.S. Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.; eighth ($174,324) for U.S. Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C.; 15th ($107,420) for U.S. Rep. Dick Gephardt, D-Mo.; ninth ($207,640) for U.S. Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn.; third ($119,898) for retired Gen. Wesley Clark; third ($69,809) for U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich

D-Ohio; 16th ($3,250) for former U.S. Sen. Carol Moseley Braun; and 18th ($2,990) for the Rev. Al Sharpton.



http://www.sanmateocountytimes.com/Stories/0,1413,87~11268~1870457,00....
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 03:14 PM
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2. If Drudge had balls
I would love to be the one to remove them.
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