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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 11:22 AM
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Impeachment's Back in the News (Dave Lindorff)
Impeachment's Back in the News

You’d have to call it progress when impeachment, which for almost a year has been a banned word in the corporate media and the halls of Congress, starts being discussed as a serious matter, even if it is only to say that it shouldn’t be done.

In an April 5 article, the Washington Times interviewed several members of Congress, noting along the way that Congressional Democrats report that “constituents are clamoring” for impeachment of the president.

Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) is quoted as saying he gets “one call after another” calling on him to impeach the president, but he goes on to say impeachment would be “a very divisive thing…and at this point I don’t see that happening.”

Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), one of the House’s most liberal members, reportedly calls impeachment pointless and a distraction from the presidential election.

Diane Watson (D-CA), another of the most liberal members of Congress, says she gets calls for impeachment from every crowd she speaks to, and says that while she would support impeachment herself, it’s “not a strategy our new leadership would want to start with.”

That comment, of course, really gets to the heart of it. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), has for almost a year been hammering home her opposition to impeachment, saying repeatedly that it is “off the table” and (as she said again last week on NBC’s “Meet the Press”) that “Democrats are not about impeachment.”
...(snip)...

Lately, however, there are signs that even Conyers, whose obeisance got him the chairmanship of the House Judiciary Committee that should have been his by virtue of seniority alone, is chafing a bit at Pelosi’s strictures.


Anthony St. Martin, founder of the website PledgetoImpeach.org, reports being told by Rep. Danny Davis (D-IL), and by staff members in the offices of both Rep. Watson and Rep. Conyers, that all three of those members of the House would be willing to push for impeachment if they received a petition from voters in their districts representing one percent of the district population (about 6500 signatures).
.....(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/







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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 11:30 AM
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1. Impeachment WOULD be a divisive thing.
It would divide the criminals from our system, and get them the hell out of government.

Impeach. K&R.

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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 11:31 AM
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2. lol. Agreed. n/t
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 01:42 PM
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7. Exactly.
Excellent comeback. I shall remember and use it.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 04:20 PM
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9. I hope you have the opportunity to use it often.
I actually like ALL talk of impeachment.

I'm suspecting that this is how some representatives are opening up the national discussion. Sure some really don't want it, but I've my suspicions that some can be persuaded, and welcome our call for it.

I think of how even some DUers have come to the side of impeachment who were previously against it.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:33 AM
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17. Yep. Things DO change (or is that DU change?). And if our brothers
and sisters here, who were previously against it, are changing their minds - as I've seen many here doing - then why not more than a few people in Congress.

I think if they're just bombarded, day after day, with calls, emails, petitions, etc., demanding, pleading, begging for IMPEACHMENT, plus they see what shit is being unearthed in committee by the likes of Henry Waxman and Patrick Leahy, what damnable crimes have been committed by these corner-cutting, sneaky-ass, greedy, arrogant bastards, there will be MANY more than a few changing their minds about IMPEACHMENT.

I remember when ALL talk about IMPEACHMENT was utterly taboo. Just not done. And if brought up, immediately shut down. And that's just not the case anymore. THINGS HAVE CHANGED. And every day that IMPEACHMENT comes up in discussion, in any way at all, we move one step closer to achieving it.

For Lord's sake, we can't give up now!!!
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 11:40 AM
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3. good article.
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 12:25 PM
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4. It is a sad commentary on the state of our nation
when thugs like Bush and Cheney can do what they've done to this country and still not be held accountable.

Throw the Bums Out!

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 10:06 PM
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19. Tell Pelosi. She gets all sorts of praise here,
but as long as the attitude is the current way it is about administration crimes not held to constitutional remedy, I'm going to be critical and totally unapologetic about it.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 12:47 PM
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5. If Bush** and DarthCheney are Impeached, That Could Mean…


I think that prospect scares Speaker Pelosi a bit, though her recent trip to the mideast would suggest that she is getting more used to the idea.
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 01:05 PM
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6. "I think that prospect scares Speaker Pelosi a bit"
I have thought the same thing myself. One can only hope she can get past it and so allow the doing of what needs to be done.

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 02:58 PM
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8. Impeachment would stop the war.
Extracting our sorry asses from Iraq is such a sticky business that I really am starting to believe a vigorous, aggressive impeachment may be the best, most expedient way to end the war.

And for god's sake would somebody address election fraud tout suite?

1) End the war.
2) Fix election fraud.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 09:04 PM
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10. It's so discouraging to me that they're STILL not listening to us,
to the majority of the people.

I think more people didn't want the war before the war than did, and now more people want impeachment than don't. What's it take to get their attention?? What's it take to get them to listen and hear? I don't get it. I really don't.

They must not understand the irreparable damage that goes on day after day after day in this administration. They must not understand how destructive this man and his administration has been to every facet, every nook and cranny of this nation and far too much of the world. They must not understand that impeachment was MADE for these sets of circumstances, these scandal after scandal after scandal we're fed on a daily basis.

WHO THE HELL DO THEY THINK THEY'RE SERVING BY REFUSING TO LOOK AT IMPEACHMENT??????
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 09:09 PM
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11. I'm all for impeachment.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 09:11 PM
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12. So skip impeachment and go straight to charges of war crimes and treason.
Works for me. Been saying all along that impeachment is too good for them. The rePiglicans made it largely meaningless anyway, with their hate-filled, irrational pursuit of Clinton; they'd just look at it as 'the Democrats getting even.'

So FUCK impeachment; these fuckers should HANG.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 08:48 PM
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13. Prison is good too. (nt)
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 10:35 PM
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14. One of the reasons I can't give them a passing grade is
that it's "off the table". Sorry, but this is the most impeachable presidency I can remember going through. To not is to let us down.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 02:20 AM
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16. SIBEL EDMONDS. Once she testifies, impeachment will be back ON the table.
I'm convinced of it! And, hopefully, it would be the end of the republican party....may they NEVER rest in peace, since they hate it so.

:kick::kick::kick:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:25 AM
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18. Yep. That could do it.
I'm still working hard on letters to Committee chairs and such. Hope there is good news following the holidays soon.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 10:46 PM
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15. When the majority of the American peeps favor impeachment, Pelosi will see the light...
and change her tune quite quickly!
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