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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:37 PM
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Pelosi Challenges White House: If I Gave Syria The Wrong Message, Prove It
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/05/pelosi-syria-prove-it/

Pelosi Challenges White House: If I Gave Syria The Wrong Message, Prove It

Conservatives and media figures continue to claim, without evidence, that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) delivered an incorrect message from Israel to Syria during her meeting with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

Pelosi insists that Israel’s message was communicated accurately, and has suggested a good way to prove it:

Daly pointed out that Pelosi was briefed by State Department officials before her meetings with the foreign leaders and that State Department officials also attended her meetings.

So if Pelosi really committed foreign policy flubs of the first order, the State Department is in a position to confirm as much.

The White House certainly received a read-out of what exactly Pelosi and the foreign leaders said in their meetings. Significantly, the White House has not openly accused Pelosi of the foreign-policy missteps the Post had accused her of.

In an e-mail follow-up, Daly wrote: “WH has not said that because in fact the Speaker did not get the message wrong — she included the necessary caveats and did not say or imply that this was a change in Israel’s position.”

Indeed, despite President Bush’s claim that Pelosi’s trip sent “mixed signals,” State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said during his briefing today, “I don’t think necessarily complicates anything that we’re doing.”
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:40 PM
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1. Man oh man
They HATE to be outdone by Pelosi.

Well, jerks, you've had SIX FRAGGIN YEARS to do something......
if she shows all of us how it should be done, then you should get down on your knees and thank her for teaching you a new approach to difficult matters.

YOUR WAY SUCKS BIG TIME!
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:41 PM
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3. Amen!
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:43 PM
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5. Hah! A mother and a grandmother...with that in her resume
you've gotta expect that she knows the route to the woodshed!
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Learn2Swim Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:41 PM
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2. Nancy Pelosi
is the shit. B-) She makes the WH look like even bigger fools, every step of the way.

I love this woman. And I love that she takes pride in driving * nuts.
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:46 PM
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6. Did you see the elderly Syrian woman
flash Nancy the peace sign? It was a beautiful thing.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:43 PM
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4. As adults, both Pelosi and the Syrian leadership are capable . . .
Of processing mixed messages without pissing themselves. They also recognise that diplomacy -- as practiced by professionals rather than amateurs and zealots -- is seldom black or white anyway.

And as it turns out, the message in this case is not so mixed: "That goniff and his clucks in the White house will not be around much longer and they don't represent American interests or American values."

The mixing is in the audience -- not just the Syrians, but the Israelis as well, and a whole host of other observers.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:48 PM
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7. (Cheney)White House denounces top US lawmaker's Syria trip
Forum Name Latest Breaking News
Topic subject (Cheney)White House denounces top US lawmaker's Syria trip
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2795161#2795161
2795161, (Cheney)White House denounces top US lawmaker's Syria trip
Posted by maddezmom on Thu Apr-05-07 03:42 AM

Source: AFP

White House denounces top US lawmaker's Syria trip by Olivier Knox
2 hours, 14 minutes ago



FORT IRWIN, United States (AFP) - The White House on Wednesday sharply condemned US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (news, bio, voting record)'s trip to Syria, saying the road to Damascus was "lined with the victims" of Syrian-backed extremists.

Vice President Dick Cheney said in a radio interview that the visit undermined US-led efforts to isolate Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and instead rewarded his "bad behavior" in Lebanon, Iraq and elsewhere.

"He's been isolated and cut off because of his bad behavior. And the unfortunate thing about the Speaker's visit is it sort of breaks down that barrier," Cheney told ABC radio.

"It means without him having done any of those things he should do in order to be acceptable, if you will, from an international standpoint, he gets a visit from a high-ranking American anyway. In other words, his bad behavior is being rewarded," the vice president said.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070405/pl_afp/syriausdiplomacywhouse_070405061552


:wtf: breaking down barriers and diplomacy is a bad thing?? :argh:
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:50 PM
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9. Meanwhile Darrell Issa (R) vists Syria today and WH is silent
Edited on Thu Apr-05-07 01:50 PM by kirby
Or I did I miss their outrage?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:50 PM
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8. the white house completely under estimated
pelosi`s up bringing in Baltimore. they always thought and labeled her as a liberal for pinko-land but she`s as tough and gritty as the Baltimore city she was raised in. they are going to regret pissing her off
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:46 PM
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12. You got that right!
Tommy D'Allesandro's little girl, and Little Tommy's sister, is no one to screw around with! She has bare knuckled politics in her genes.
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deepthought42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:11 PM
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13. You don't mess with Baltimore, hon. LOL... ;)
:evilgrin:
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:51 PM
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10. Pelosi: Foreign Policy in action BushCo: Active Foreign Bullying
'nuff said

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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:52 PM
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11. Go Nancy! Kick some ass!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:12 PM
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14. That's the spirit Speaker Pelosi, call them on their shit!
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 04:20 PM
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15. Aw, SNAP!
Is Naughty Nancy ruining poor widdle Georgie's splendid widdle expedition?
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19jet54 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 04:30 PM
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16. Democracy?
... Speaker Pelosi is the leader of the 'House of Representatives' of the People of America, and speaks for us. How can she deliver the wrong message if it is what we, the People, want? Is this a Democracy or a Dictator form of government?

"Mixed Signals" - What, the last election results didn't tell them 'W' & his plan is on his way out? Nancy is just confirming it for us B-)

Democracy Works!
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 04:32 PM
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17. “I don’t think necessarily complicates anything that we’re doing.”
No shit. :eyes: When you're doing nothing you can't really complicate it, can you? The Bush administration has sat around on their fat asses doing nothing. Making threats and rattling sabers IS NOT a foreign policy. Making threats and rattling sabers IS NOT diplomacy. Speaker Pelosi has done more good on a single visit to the middle east than the entire Bush administration has done in 6+ years.
Georgie gets shown up again. What a total and abject failure he has been as President. :puke:
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 05:38 PM
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18. PROVE IT!!!!!!!!
Two of the most under used words in todays' political climate.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 09:26 PM
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20. Not only that - they're not big words, so even * can understand them.
I'd love to see them "prove it", which of course, they can't. I love Pelosi's recent responses to them, too - she's kicking ass!
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 08:44 PM
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19. Pelosi to Bush: Lead or get out of the way. On second thought, just get out of the way...
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ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 01:02 AM
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21. Sweet n/t
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bighart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 03:45 PM
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22. Have one concern
I am a concerned by the statements from Isreal regarding what Nancy told Syria about peace talks.
I fear the statements (by Isreal) will make some doubt
Ms. Pelosi's credibility. What are your thoughts?
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