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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:04 PM
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Kerry and Gingrich to 'discuss' Global Climate Change in DC April 10.
Would have preferred a formal debate, but I doubt Gingrich would have accepted that format.



The John Brademas Center for the Study of Congress

Cordially Invites You to a
Conversation on Global Climate Change
and the Environment
Featuring

Honorable John Kerry
United States Senate

and

Honorable Newt Gingrich
Former Speaker of the House

Tuesday, April 10, 2007
10:00am – 12:00pm
325 Russell Senate Office Building
1st and C Streets, NE
Washington, DC

Please join us for a discussion between Senator John Kerry,
author of This Moment on Earth, and Former Speaker of
the House Newt Gingrich, author of Winning the Future: A
21st Century Contract with America, on the topic of global
climate change and the environment.
For more information and to register, please visit
www.nyu.edu/brademas/programs.events
or call 212-998-2269.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:15 PM
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1. So will CSPAN carry it? n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:18 PM
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2. Good question. I have not heard that they will be there.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:31 PM
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4. Maybe Kerry & Gingrich will allow someone to YouTube it? n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:48 PM
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5. Cspan usually gives Gingrich all the time he wants.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:21 PM
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3. Any opportunity to have Kerry center stage on behalf of the environment is a good thing
Somehow the environment always seems to get shoved aside in the scheme of things and the animals suffer greatly for it, along with their ever diminishing habitat which continues to suffer from the longterm abuse by greedy hogs, namely rich Republicans.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:36 PM
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11. Agreed. It's good seeing high profile former Democratic nominees like Gore and Kerry...
Edited on Thu Apr-05-07 02:38 PM by Kerry2008
...talking about the issues and giving strong voices to our values. The enviroment is often ignored, and pushed to the side. But we need to address many issues, like global warming!! I urge everyone to purchase, borrow, or check out from the library "This Moment on Earth" by John and Teresa Heinz Kerry. You won't regret it!!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 09:52 AM
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18. Add Gary Hart - he still ranks high on terrorism and national security issues and
constantly works to provide sharp analysis for this country and for Dem lawmakers willing to listen.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:03 PM
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6. Please please please let them show this where I can watch it.
pretty please?
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:03 PM
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7. I'd rather hear from Robert Kennedy Jr.
Edited on Thu Apr-05-07 02:06 PM by NI4NI
I respect John Kerry, and I think he would try to do a fine job, but neither he nor Gingrich know much about global warming, nor has either one been fighting as long and as hard against air and water pollution and the disregarded absence and corporate changes of EPA laws as long as RK Jr. has.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:11 PM
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8. Kerry was fighting those battles when RFK Jr was still a teen. He helped start Earth Day
Edited on Thu Apr-05-07 02:27 PM by blm
and even Al Gore acknowledged Kerry as the senator who worked hardest on environmental issues throughout his career.

All serious environmentalists have long known Kerry as a serious ally and advocate for them.

RFK has certainly excelled on this issue in the last 2 decades for sure, but I am surprised anyone would try to say that Kerry couldn't handle this subject.

Gore:

>>>>
John and I were elected to the United States Senate on the same day 20 years ago, and I have worked closely with him for all that time. So I want to say a personal word about John Kerry the man. He is a friend who will stand by you. His word is his bond. He has a deep patriotism that goes far beyond words. He has devoted his life to making America a better place for all of us.

He showed uncommon heroism on the battlefield in Vietnam. I watched him show that same courage on the Senate floor. For example, he had the best record of protecting the environment against polluters of any of my colleagues bar none. He never shied away from a fight, no matter how powerful the foe. He was never afraid to take on difficult and thankless issues that few others wanted to touch -- like exposing the threat of narcoterrorism and tracing the sources of terrorist financing. He was one of the very first in our Party to take on the issue of drastic deficit reduction. And he’s developed a tough and thoughtful plan to restore our economic strength and fiscal discipline.

To put it simply, those of us who have worked with John know that he has the courage, integrity and leadership to be a truly great President of the United States of America.
>>>>>>
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:23 PM
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9. Let me ask you then--about this "back in the 70's they said the Earth was cooling"
I have heard that as a talking point repeatedly. As with the rest of their strange mantras I suspect this doesn't hold much water or at least is not what I am hearing.

Can you offer an insight into this?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:40 PM
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12. In mid and late 70s there were many severe blizzards that I recall, and that reaction
you describe may have come from those years - it was bitter cold for us Ohioans back then.

But, I don't recall there being specific news reports or any scientific analysis that cited global cooling then. Maybe I spent too much spare time doing the Latin Hustle and the Bump.....heheh
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:43 PM
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14. I believe JK will do fine on the environmental issues
because of his record, and the Kerry's new book is on my reading list. I'm just more acquainted with the more recent enviornmental activism of RK.
I'm also skeptical that two carrer politicians can significantly debate global warming on a scientific basis, especially Gingrich, the sinister spinmeister, without having dedicated their time and effort solely on the subject as Al Gore has.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:51 PM
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15. Please see post 13. MH1 is one of DU's watchdogs on environmental issues.
Edited on Thu Apr-05-07 02:52 PM by blm
I tend to watchdog on corruption and open government issues.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:32 PM
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16. Found this post at DailyKos that should help reassure you on this.
From someone who blogged a Kerry appearance on these issues. He says Kerry has the science down.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/4/5/12147/53024
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 09:58 AM
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19. They compliment each other
Sen. Kerry made sure to put the RiverKeepers in his new book, which is something you will recognize as a program that Robert Kennedy, Jr is deeply involved in.

There is a huge amount of work to be done on environmental causes. We need all the people we can get working together for this common goal.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:34 PM
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10. What a line of bullshit. Have you heard Kerry speak on the environment? Such passion. n/t
Edited on Thu Apr-05-07 02:37 PM by Kerry2008
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:41 PM
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13. Hmmm...
http://www.loe.org/shows/shows.htm?programID=04-P13-00030#feature1

CURWOOD: From the Jennifer and Ted Stanley studios in Somerville, Massachusetts, this is Living on Earth. I'm Steve Curwood.

John Kerry and John Edwards discuss their vision for America. (Photo: John Kerry for President, Inc. from Sharon Farmer)


On November 2nd Americans will choose their next president. Between now and then, if you live in one of those states considered "in play," you're probably witnessing a flood of political advertising. This week on Living on Earth, we try to step away from the ads and the convention fray with a look at how and how much the environment has mattered to the two men on the Democratic ticket, Senators John Kerry and John Edwards.

First, Senator Kerry. Now you can disagree over the significance of his record on the environment during his years of service as an elected official, but John Kerry has one. And the record begins during a period in his life that hasn't gotten much attention -- a period after Vietnam, after he was a prosecutor, but before he was elected to the U.S. Senate. The time was 1982, the place was Massachusetts. The environmental issue of the day was acid rain, and people were still coming to terms with it. Dianne Dumanoski was an environment writer for the Boston Globe at the time.

DUMANOSKI: Acid rain was a really dominant issue. We had lakes – actually we still have lakes -- that were acidified and had lost their fish, there's been widespread damage to the forests in New England

CURWOOD: John Kerry had been elected Lieutenant Governor, traditionally a stepping stone in Massachusetts politics. The governor, Michael Dukakis, delegated the issues of state-federal relations to Kerry just as acid rain was becoming the premier cross-border issue.

DUMANOSKI: He sort of became the point person on acid rain and was the person that was doing all this organizing and collaborating with the other governors and the Eastern Canadian provincial heads of government. And there was actually a treaty that was signed in '83. It was actually the first agreement on acid rain. It really predated the agreements in Europe and this actually later became the blueprint for the provisions in the Clean Air Act that didn't get passed until 1990.

CURWOOD: Dianne Dumanoski credits Kerry with developing a strong grasp of this complex issue, in which pollutants are carried by the wind from the Midwest to the U.S. and Canadian east. Bob Turner also covered the earlier career of John Kerry and is now deputy editorial page editor at the Boston Globe.


Of course when Curwood mentioned that Kerry's work on the environment started with this, he left out that in 1970 Kerry helped organize the Massachusetts Earth Day event. But the acid rain work was probably his first real policy work.

And since he's been in the Senate, Kerry has sponsored a lot of bills, and at some point became chair of the Fisheries committee. Somehow I think he does know a bit about the subject - although I'll also bet he gives RFK Jr his due, also.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:57 PM
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17. Kerry has been involved on environmental issues since 1970
RFKjr is one of the waterkeepers Kerry mentioned. In 2004, RFKjr spoke of how Kerry was an incredible on the environment. Kerry was the person who proposed the NE governors implement cap and trade for sulphur to mitigate acid rain problems. He had learned of it by speaking to environmental experts in Europe. They bought the idea and instituted the first program. It was successful enough that it became the model for that part of the clean air act. Kerry has been on these issues way before RFKjr.

Kerry is also likely a far better debater than RFKjr.
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