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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:53 PM
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Will Dean use the Drudge story against Kerry?
Will Dean bring this story up and attack Kerry over it in order to try and resurrect his campaign?

I don't think he should, but I think Dean might try and take advantage of this in light of his statements about Edwards being a better candidate than Kerry.

It seems Dean has a major grudge against Kerry, and it wouldn't surprise me to see Dean try and use this even if the story doesn't go any farther than Drudge. Remember, Dean even referenced the botox story (although in a joking manner).
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:54 PM
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1. He doesn't have to... the press will do it for him
It would be better to be gracious right now... especially because the facts are still emerging.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:55 PM
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2. He won't have to
If it gets in the mainstream media (duh), all he has to do is sit back and watch the media eviscerate Kerry.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:56 PM
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3. candidates who read drudge
are pathetic.
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:12 PM
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27. Lieberman used Drudge to smear Clark, look where he (Joe) is now...
n/t
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:56 PM
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4. If this thing takes off, please.
Dean'll be chillin' with his mind on his money and his money on his mind, haha. The media will gut Kerry for him.

Later.

RJS
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:03 PM
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18. The media has put Dean in the freezer for
now and closed the door almost. They are looking for fresh meat so they want give too much credence to it coming from Dean,they'd just call him angry and taking shots so Dean probably will sit this one out and wisely so. Just as I heard that Dean was his own worst enemy here so many times perhaps we may find that Kerry may prove to be his own worse enemy too.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:57 PM
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5. As a Dean supporter, I hope not
this is beneath every Democratic candidate.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:57 PM
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:07 PM
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22. Kerry Fundraiser Helped Finance Anti-Dean Ads
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ShimokitaJer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:16 PM
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35. That's not fair w4rma
Don't bring up facts about Kerry's dirty campaign when his supporters are busy speculating about dirty campaigning that they imagine Dean might do.

Don't you know Kerry is running a "clean" campaign, with "no" PAC money?
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Sushi-Lover Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:12 PM
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26. Dean supporters
who are in any way happy about this not even confirmed pseudo-scandal are worthy of not so nice responses (although I haven't seen the alleged glee yet). However, Dean himself hasn't done anything that would support the statement that he would malign the Pope. That is just a mean and silly statement.
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:57 PM
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7. If he does, Katy bar the door
He would be no better than a Bushie. There are limits to what a Dem candidate can use and do to another Dem candidate. What microscopic hope that remains for the Dean candidacy will evaporate.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:58 PM
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8. He won't have to.
The press will deal with this nicely, if it's true.
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:59 PM
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9. Yes...
Any lie about Kerry would do since Dean is so desperate.

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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:00 PM
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10. "his statements about Edwards being a better candidate"
You have a source for this, or is this more misinformation?
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:02 PM
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15. It was all over DU yesterday
I'm not making this up. It was an AP story.
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:03 PM
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17. It's true, dude, seriously.
There was a big thread. Dean DID say it. And I support it.

Later.

RJS
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:05 PM
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19. It's true.
He said it yesterday.
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Sushi-Lover Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:00 PM
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11. No
That would be stupid as well as mean. In fact it irritates me that you are even suggesting that Dean might do such a thing.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:00 PM
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12. "Dean, Dean, Dean, Dean, Dean." - Kerry
Good grief.
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:14 PM
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28. Loss,Loss,Loss,Loss,Loss,Loss,Loss,Loss,Loss,Loss,Loss,Loss....
...Loss,Loss....

-Dean
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:01 PM
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13. Yes
Dean is so vindictive and mean that I bet he will.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:01 PM
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14. Man
the fact we even consider that a democratic candidate would use a Drudge story to attack another tells us all we need to know about his character. I think even Dean is above using an INTERNET rumor as an attack.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:02 PM
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16. His supporters are doing for him.
Jesus! I swear you gotta have a mop in hear to clean up the foam dripping from their mouths.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:11 PM
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25. thank you for that blatant, sweeping insult
I don't know how many times I and other Dean supporters have said this story sounds bogus and others who say they'll wait before making any judgements.

And yet people like you love to paint us all as rabid dogs. And for what? thanks. no really.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:15 PM
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30. I apologize.
I should have said 'most' of the supporters and also included some Edwards supporters as well.

But in the past hour or so since this "story" came to light, it's been an orgy of Kerry attacks.

I didn't mean to generalize all the Dean or Edwards supporters.
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KC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:06 PM
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20. I hope
Dean doesn't stoop that low.

KC
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:07 PM
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21. I believe it was Drudge who "scooped" that Blumenthal beat his wife
so I doubt Dean will use some bullshit from an "anonymous source" against Kerry
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Rowsdower Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:07 PM
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23. If Dean is smart....
he will stay away from this and let the media do the work. Stay above this filth.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:08 PM
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24. He won't
The press will press it and then it will be up to Kerry himself to either whether the storm like Clinton did or watch as his ship sinks.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:14 PM
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29. Of course he will...
According to right winged pseudo media whore Drudge this is the reason Dean recanted bailing if he didn't win Iowa...also interesting is the idea that Drudge must have gotten that info from someone at camp Dean. Things that make you go hmmmm...
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:15 PM
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32. Well, there is certainly no love-loss between these two
I hope he doesn't, but if he's really pissed about the Osama ad in Iowa and its possible connections to Kerry supporters, who knows?

I hope the Dems can rise about all this mud-slinging, or we may see a replay of '88 where people get so disgusted they stay away from the polls in droves (this was the GOP strategy in '88, according to Lee Atwater, in fact).
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:15 PM
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33. Good Grief NO!
n/t
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Mass_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:15 PM
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34. no
look Dean has a positive message ok? He's not an attack dog who will stop at nothing to win. He's a dem just like the rest of us.
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ShimokitaJer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:21 PM
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36. Why would Dean mention it?
I swear, some Kerry supporters are so firmly entrenched in your worldview that they've actually starting to believe that Dean is responsible for Kerry's missteps.

Here's some news for you:

Kerry was linked to the Osama ads -- don't attack Dean for bringing that inconvenient fact up

If proven true, it was Kerry who was unfaithful -- it wasn't Dean who stuck Kerry's dick into someone other than Kerry's wife, and it wasn't Dean who is pushing the story. It seems to be Lahane.

Get over this obsession with blaming all your campaign troubles on Dean, or you'll start sounding even less "electable" than you look right now.
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37. Locking..
8. If you make a highly questionable and inflammatory factual assertion about a candidate, you must provide a link to a reputable source to back up your claim. Rumor-mongering is not allowed. Allegedly "innocent" questions which are actually an underhanded effort to spread rumors are not allowed. If you really need to know the answer to your question, try Google.

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LittleDannySlowhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:24 PM
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38. No
I realize that defending Dean here is tantamount to high treason, but come on. He hasn't attacked anything in anyone's personal life, not even Shrub.

As the frontrunner, Kerry is now in a position where a lot of different people have an interest in trying to smear him. This could have come from anywhere.
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