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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:52 PM
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Kerry's Infidelity, Shows Electability Not Predictable
People need to go back to voting for the guy who has the right ideas, balancing the budget, going to the war was wrong, raising the minimum wage to 7 an hour, 100 Billion dollar jobs program, getting rid of tax-cuts to the wealthy so we won't have a crashing economy.

Howard Dean had all the ideas, he's still in there fighting for what is right for America, even against the savage media attacks, unjustly lobbed his way by the corporate Kerry contributor executives in News Corp, Sony, and other media outlets.

Clean your mind of electability media crap, and vote for the guy you knew was the right one all along, regain your credibility. You will like yourself a whole lot better. No one can tell who'll win in November, who knows, Bush may have all those voting machines so rigged no Democrat can win, but he's crashing badly now, even the media has soured on propping him up, as conservative as they are.

Vote for Dean, the only guy who has a chance to win. Besides, it'll send the media into a crazy get-Dean frenzy again, and wake up millions more to their bias, and attempts to control the Democratic mind. That would be a great thing for this country to realize: the effectiveness of the manipulation of the media. Maybe people would go back to thinking for themselves, even better, the media might just actually start trying to regain their customers by just reporting the news, and not trying to steer people, and pick candidates.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:53 PM
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1. Never left the camp
:)
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:55 PM
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3. Me either. Run Howard run! nt
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:02 PM
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7. Same here.
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:54 PM
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2. If you're voting on the issues only DK beats Dean hands down
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 01:55 PM by cheezus
c'mon. electability IS important
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:59 PM
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6. If It wasn't the popularity contest it is, I'd vote for Dennis, too
He's the only guy who is making sense, so obviously he doesn't have a chance.

Electability is the key.
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:07 PM
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8. Is
Is important, isn't predictable. See what I'm saying.

Hey, I'm a meet up leader, and a dedicated servant of Dean. I've kicked in $50 and hopefully, if the campaign lasts long enough, will be one of the eventual 2 million x $100 dollar club. Not to mention all the postage, letters, envelopes, paper, time, and printer ink.

I like Kucinich by the way, if Dean's eventually removed, assuming the "K" doesn't withdraw, I'll vote for him. But what, he's got 2 delegates or something? I wish he'd withdraw, but it's his decision. That would be a couple of more votes for Dean. I don't know why Dennis went along with attacking Dean so much, since their positions are more similar. He should have been hitting Edwards, Kerry, and Gephardt, since they all voted for the IWR.
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Virgil Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:57 PM
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4. Dean did not have all the ideas
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 01:59 PM by Virgil
He opposed medical cannabis in Vermont and also did not call for a turn to a harm reduction strategy for substance abuse. He would sail into NH where Kerry was percieived as friendly to medicial cannabis by the Granite Staters that wanted medical marijuana for NH. He sailed into a strong wind and was blown away.

I realize that the WOD and medical Miracleplant are not the all importantant issues, but it is an illuminating issue in regards to recognition of science and the limits of federal constitutional authority. He does not have all the ideas. DK has all the ideas.
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:12 PM
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10. Yea
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 02:18 PM by liberalmike27
That will get Dean a lot of votes, to support medical Marijuana.

Hey, quit smoking October 10th, 1997, used to really smoke up the place, loved it, thought I'd never be able to quit. I wish they'd get rid of all the foolish mandatory sentences, and decriminalize pot, and stop attacking Americans for drugs. It just promotes the violence, makes cops' jobs harder, takes the focus off of terrorism, costs a fortune to imprison people. I'm glad Kucinich speaks out for it, but still, it's not an issue that will play in a campaign.

Even with all that, I wish I'd never smoked pot, if I still had my short-term memory, which is all but gone, I'd be so much better off than I am now. I truly regret not stopping far sooner, and ever getting involved. Still, I don't believe locking people up does anything but make an already bad life, worse.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:58 PM
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5. We're making huge assumptions here.
Let's not.

The story may have nothing to it.

Or Kerry may handle it brilliantly.

Or Dean will start using it and look spiteful which I would prefer not to see happen.

This is going to be very dirty campaign no matter who our nominee is. Let's not get excited yet. Let's not get excited at all.
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:23 PM
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11. I
I don't think Dean will use it personally. As for me, I am going to use it all I can to show people that Kerry is fully fallable, and can lose. Electability is only shown by being elected to the president. Kerry has won most of the primaries simply because the media has wanted him to. Clearly, you must see that if they had wanted Dean to win, he would have. Imagine if they'd spun his speech--which directly correlated to his drop in the New Hampshire polls--and said "It was a noble effort to rally-his-troops, and I admire the fact Dean didn't concede anything, and intends to fight on." You see, they can put any spin on it they want. My own mom said, "I didn't see anything wrong with the speech, and she isn't particualrly a Dean supporter, though a democrat.

Saying Dean will get trounced is just a Kerry-tactic, or Edwards. People shouldn't be so weak as to believe what the corporate media tells them, they are nothing but 10 million dollar a year pundits who say and do exactly as the leaders of their networks(who contributed to Kerry's campaign by the way) tell them to.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 02:12 PM
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9. Dean would get trounced . . .
he's damaged goods . . . and you can't acquire foreign affairs expertise through on-the-job training . . . Bush would squash him, and we'd have to live with a Bush Supreme Court for the next 30-40 years . . .
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