Obama's numbers to come out today. HIllary loses.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

According to my local NPR, they were getting a heads up that Obama will release numbers that are equal to, if not better than Hillary's 26 mill. AND, he will have 38,000 individual donors, many of whom did not max out, unlike Hillary's. Even if this is true, watch Hillarians go out in force, like here, DKos and other sites and proclaim that her coronation is now inevitable. Watch her professional cadre of talking heads do everything to discount Obama, his numbers and his age, again claiming that she is the "odds on" favorite.

Of course, they would be saying these things regardless of the facts. But that is the SOP of her campaign and that candidate. What would really be a surprise is if she took a difficult position, one of leadership, WITHOUT a poll, a focus group, or consulting and repeatedly editing and practicing her "impromptu" message.

[MaineDem]

1. Sounds like you're buying all the RW talking points.

:eyes:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

2. from my LOCAL NPR? since when did their call to Obama's

headquarters here result in a GOP talking point?

Of course, I see. Another defend hillary at all costs post. I get it. OK.

[MaineDem]

7. I wasn't referring to the NPR data but to this:

"What would really be a surprise is if she took a difficult position, one of leadership, WITHOUT a poll, a focus group, or consulting and repeatedly editing and practicing her "impromptu" message."

And I'm not a Hillary supporter. I just hate to see her reputation framed by the right wingers. I hope she stays in the Senate.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

8. I want her to stay in the senate, too.

i have no wish to see her as our nominee.

[northzax]

12. you mean like the President?

"What would really be a surprise is if she took a difficult position, one of leadership, WITHOUT a poll, a focus group, or consulting and repeatedly editing and practicing her "impromptu" message."

he takes all sorts of positions without polling and caring what his constituents think, and we all think he's an asshole for it. And then we think Senator Clinton is an asshole for representing the interests of the people of her state by actually listening to them.

So which is it? principled leadership without listening to polls, or governing by listening to the people and building consensus?

[flpoljunkie]

That's 83,500 individual donors, not 38,000!

[ChairmanAgnostic]

6. they said 38,000 MORE donors than Hillary. sorry

my bad in original post.

[flpoljunkie]

3. Duplicate post.

[On the Road]

4. I'm Astonished Obama is Raising This Kind of Money

I didn't expect him to draw to support of the large donor segment until after establishing himself a little better.

[Le Taz Hot]

15. I'm not.

People are trying to prevent Hillary being shoved down our throats by the corporate whore Dems and the MSM.

[Bitwit1234]

5. Pittling little stabs and jabs

I expected more from Obama but like McCain I guess he wants to be president so damn bad he will try anything. Thank God for Edwards.

Now his campaign is publishing their own propoganda. Does he have a spy in Hillary Clinton's campaign that he knows what she is doing, how much money she raised, where she is going. Boo hiss cut it out your're making yourself look more and more like a republican swiftboater.

[CRH]

19. Just curious Bitwit ...

but this twice in todays posts, you have trashed Obama for collecting a million less than Clinton with more actual donors, and then sworn your future hopes to Edwards. Twice you have used swiftboating as an accusation. Have I missed something? To what is your anger directed? Can you help me out here so I can understand you objections?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3197380&mesg_id=3197486

[David Dunham]

9. Edwards will win the nomination in the end.

[leftyladyfrommo]

11. I hope so. I think he is really the best guy for the job. n/t

[INdemo]

14. Its still so early anything can happen of course but

I think the only thing that can stop John Edwards is.......Al Gore entering the race..But I still dont understand why this election is being treated as if it was next month..

[mnhtnbb]

17. I think so. Hillary and Obama will self-destruct. Both owned by Wall Street.

Hillary is owned by the DLC types and Obama wants to make nice with Repubs.

When the economy tanks--and it's headed that way--Edwards will rise as the populist who's concerned about the little guy who's been screwed by Bill Clinton's NAFTA--and the tide will turn against Obama.

[Evergreen Emerald]

10. Wow, this is great: both Clinton and Obama getting big bucks.

The democrats will be a tough force for 2008. Unless of course we continue to turn on each other.

Why does a positive for Obama have to be characterized as a negative for Clinton, and visa-versa?

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?

[Old and In the Way]

13. Good question.

The anti-Hillary comments read like posts at FreeRepublic. I'm leaning towards Edwards at the moment, but I'm already sick of the trash posts that attack individual candidates on the board. It's a shame that supporters of one particular candidate can't focus on positive comments FOR their candidate instead of resorting to negative posts AGAINST other Democratic candidates. How regressive.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

16. 100,000 donors to Obama.

that is a huge number. Twice or more than his competition.

and many of those donors were $25 or less.

Guess what. While one dollar is equal to any other dollar, even Hillary's, 100,000 vote are FAR MORE than 50,000.

[saltpoint]

18. It doesn't seem to me that 20-some million bucks is a "losing" sum.

It sounds pretty competitive to me.