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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 06:33 PM
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How do you view pro-lifers?
Do you view them as bigots (kind of like how homophobes are viewed as bigots), or do you respect, while disagreeing, with their views?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 06:36 PM
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1. for the most part, they are hypocrites
most of the "pro-life" people I know are pro-war
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 06:38 PM
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5. ....and pro-capital punishment.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 06:37 PM
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Neanderthals.
They can't grasp the concept that women should have the ability without interference from do-gooders or politicians to make the decision to carry or terminate a pregnancy with her physician's consultation.

It's about empowering women. Period. (Or disempowering women, in the case of pro-lifers.)
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 06:37 PM
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2. I can respect their point of view
as long as they respect my pro choice views. If a person doesn't believe in abortion, they don't have to have one. Legislating personal morality is where I take issue with them.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 06:37 PM
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4. How many pro-lifers have you ever met who respected your pro-choice views?
There may be one or two on DU, but...

In real life, I've yet to meet one.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 06:42 PM
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9. I've met a number of people who would consider themselves anti - abortian
yet aren't particularly upset or offended that I believe abortian should be legal.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 06:42 PM
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10. Actually, I know several
people who are personally opposed to abortion but don't believe the government should be involved in the issue. I seem to remember John Kerry speaking about being personally against abortion but supported a woman's right to make her own decision.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 06:47 PM
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15. How many people do you know who are "pro-abortion?"
I'm very, very, very pro-choice. I hate abortion. I don't like the procedure. I wish there were a better way.

BUT I think it should be the woman's decision, and that's what is at Ground Zero of the abortion battle...not whether or not one agrees with the surgery, but whether or not women should be entitled to make that decision.

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BellaLuna Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 06:37 PM
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3. Depends
do they truly believe what they say? If so, I agree to disagree.

I don't see it as a bigot issue though, more of a control thing for their 'morals' to be pushed down everyone else's throats.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 06:39 PM
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6. I have zero problem with people who are opposed to abortion. If they believe it
should be illegal I have a problem with their opinion, but not necessarily with them personally.

If they are Randall Terry terrorist extremists I think they need to be arrested when they commit crimes.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 06:40 PM
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7. insane
usually religiously insane
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 06:40 PM
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8. Generally with respect
As long as they don't try to force everyone else to live according to their views.

I don't care what anyone else thinks or does as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others.
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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 06:42 PM
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11. I don't consider them so much pro-life,
as pro-birth. They don't seem to care what happens after that.

And I agree, they're Neanderthals!


:)
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 06:44 PM
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12. First of all I despise the term itself - I think I'm "pro life"
I pretty much oppose the death penalty and I strongly oppose wars that are fought just to make politicians feel more manly. In the context of the abortion I'm definitely "pro" the "life" of the mother who would rather not have a child she is carrying and I'm "pro" the "lives" of the rest of us who will have to pay for this unwanted child until he is educated or institutionalized and even longer if he winds up in jail or a mental institution. If abortion is necessary to ensure that these lives are not harmed that isn't great but it may be the only option.
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 06:45 PM
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13. Not naked...well...unless I have a condom...
:evilgrin:
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 06:45 PM
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14. Get Out Of Jail Free Card.
I think most "pro-lifers" are all about death and destruction. Their dedication to an illusion provides them 'moral cover' for their hateful, destructive, death-based ideology.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 06:48 PM
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16. Some of them are dangerous thugs
several doctors have been shot. The doctor whose clinic I used to defend in N.O. had his ear nearly sliced off by one. Then there are the noxious chemical attacks, and so forth.

When people other than good white Christians behave in this manner, it is called "terrorism".
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 07:08 PM
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17. Unless they are hypocrites
Edited on Mon Apr-02-07 07:12 PM by brook
I respect their beliefs. I know of a woman who uses her pro-life stance to rationalize the fact that her daughter has given birth to 3 drug-addicted children. I don't consider her a bigot so much as a hopelessly ignorant b**ch masquerading as a human being.


edited to add: I also think 'pro-life' is a misnomer- which, of course. it is. The Republicants created the term deliberately to mislead their followers - who we know are incapable of critical thought.

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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 07:19 PM
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18. Agreed, I shouldn't of used that term
Usually I call them anti-abortionists, but I was typing rather quickly
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 07:38 PM
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20. no problem...
it's 'the' term that most seem to use. I use it myself w/o thinking.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 07:29 PM
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19. It depends on how zealous and in your face they are.
I hate those types. Busybody bible thumping idiots who insist on involving themselves in other people's business. I prefer the live and let live type.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 07:46 PM
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21. Who ISN'T pro-life?
I view the bigots as "anti-choice".

Jenn
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 07:52 PM
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22. It really depends on how consistent they are in their views.
I can respectfully disagree with an anti-abortion person whose entire set of views is consistently pro-life. It doesn't seem like there are too many of those around though. I have no respect whatsoever for someone who wants to save all the poor little blastocysts, but doesn't give a damn about any living thing once it's been born.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 08:25 PM
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23. They *are* consistent in their views, as they see them.
Pro-lifers are not consistent with the views that many progressives say pro-lifers have.

Progressives/pro-choicers are also consistent in their views, as they see them. But many pro-lifers consider progressives to be inconsistent because, well, they're not consistent in the views that pro-lifers impute to them.

The rest is a matter of when we should say, "This is a human life."

Of course, I'm generalizing. There are many variations on "pro-life views", just as there are on "pro-choice views." And there are those on both sides that are, indeed, inconsistent with their views as they would word them.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 09:18 PM
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24. Misguided
and using it as an excuse to express their dismay at contemporary sexual mores.

Most rank-and-file pro-lifers are not evil, just not very good at sorting out their own discomfort with today's society.

I can actually respect the "seamless" pro-lifers, who are also against war and capital punishment and for helping the poor. At least they're consistent, not like the headline-grabbing types who kill ob-gyns in the name of "life."
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