CNN Correspondent Michael Ware says if Congress Cuts Funding for Iraq/Major Bloodbath!

[KoKo]

Suzanne Malveau is filling in for Wolfie and she's got the Ramp Up to WAR with Iran boiling. She leads off with a "breathless report" from Michael Ware asking him if Feingold Bill to cut funding for war threatening if Bush veto's the Deadline Bill will cause problems for Iraq.

Ware says it will be "devastating." That the bloodshed will only lead to Iran having Major influence and that the Saudi's will support the Sunni's. He was really worked up about how much bloodshed it would cause.

Malveau then asked if the Dems plan for "Redeploying the Troops to the Borders" wouldn't be a solution and Ware points out that the borders are Iran, Syria and Turkey and he says that there's NO WAY that would work because none of the countries would allow US troops there on their soil on the border.

Ware seemed to be hyping the Iran THREAT very heavily and that the Feingold Bill would be a disaster for the Iraqi's and PM Maliki and that the country would dissolve into blood bath and ruin.

Malveau then went on about a "former FBI official" captured by Iranians and made a BIG DEAL about whether this was related to the British "Hostages in Iraq." Zane Vergi (sp) said the US State Dept. wasn't YET calling the Brit Soldiers Hostages so that couldn't be "confirmed" but that it was a situation that definitely needs more looking into.

WAR WITH IRAN IS BEING PUSHED BY CNN! Check out the Transcript for the 5:00 p.m. report when it's AVAILABLE...it was an unbelievable PUSH FOR WAR WITH IRAN.

[LSparkle]

1. They got the call from "MC Rove" all right ...

"You have meddled with the forces of warfare ... and you ... will ... ATONE."

Are we getting through to you Messrs. Ware and Blitzer?

SICK.

[KoKo]

9. I finally turned it off...my sanity was at stake...it was REALLY BAD...

including trashing of Pelosi and full views of Cheney trashing those of us who want out of the Iraq Occupation.

She seems to be even worse than Blitzer in her warmongering. But then, this is her BIG CHANCE after spending years sucking up to Bush following him as the CNN Bush Correspondent and sitting in the "hayfield backdrop" of his Pig Ranch reporting every "holiday." This time she gets to vacation in for Blitzer at CNN Headquarters rather than muddying her Ferragamo spikes borrowed from Condi Rice.

:-(

[still_one]

12. no, this guy is in the middle of Iraq, he is the same person who said McCain was nuts

and didn't know what he was talking about in regard to its safe to walk around Baghdad

In all probability there will be a bloodbath, and it will mostly be against the Sunni. That is just the reality of the situation.

It doesn't mean we shouldn't leave.

What he also said was that if we left al queada and Iran would fill the void. I don't entirely agree with that assessment. I do agree that Iran will unite with the Shia in Iraq, but as far as al queada, they will be crushed by the Shia in Iraq and Iran.

Even though there most likely will be blood shed when we leave, there is nothing we can do about it, it is now up to the Iraqiis

[blitzen]

15. No, Ware's been saying that for months...or years...

As I mentioned in another thread, I sometimes think he's a crazed ultra-righty...At any rate, he belongs to the ranks of those who criticize the prosecution/execution of the "war on terror" but support and promote its fundamental principles. Unfortunately, these kinds of people cloud over the real problem--that the neo-con strategy was wrong from the start, a fatally flawed foreign policy.

[still_one]

21. He has his opinion, and there will be killing between the Shia and Sunni

There is nothing WE can do about it except cut OUR losses, and let the people in the region solve the problem

I did notice that when you look at ware he sure seems strung out on something. Maybe its the pressure of being in a war zone for so long

[JuniperLea]

2. Unless they have a crystal ball

This is pure guesswork.

If I were to guess, I'd say the violence would slowing diminish... down to nothing in about three months. Al Qaeda will no longer be welcome once we are gone.

[shance]

3. That's a lie. Its the money that's promoting the bloodshed.

n/t

[JuniperLea]

5. Indeed

There will be fighting as long as it's fueled with American targets, and it will be fueled with American targets as long as BushCo can make a profit. Stop the money, stop the profit, stop the bloodshed.

[still_one]

17. You will stop some of the bloodshed, but you will not stop what the Shia will do to the Sunni

in Iraq. That is already occurring, and it will get worse

The main point is that there is NOTHING we can do about it. We are dispised by most of the parties, except maybe the Kurds, but with Turkey wanting to stop the PKK from their terrorist attacks into Turkey, the best thing for us to do is cut OUR loses and get out

[JuniperLea]

24. Who should we back? Shia? Sunni?

In order to stay, a decision must be made.

[still_one]

28. Neither, we should get out, we have already done enough damage /nt

[JuniperLea]

31. Agreed n/t

[flpoljunkie]

4. I would ask if she told Ware or he knew the funding cutoff was March 31, 2008! I doubt it!

[The Count]

6. Of course, if the money is given - MAJOR BLOODBATH! (the part he can't tell anymore)

[sam sarrha]

7. 650,000 civilians dead..looks like it might end if we leave..

[The_Casual_Observer]

8. As if it isn't a bloodbath right now.

I suppose what he means is that it would be a bloodbath & we wouldn't have control of the oil.

[brooklynite]

10. Now in all fairness...

Earlier today, people were giving kudos for Ware for calling John McCain on the safety level in Baghdad (and by implication the failure of the Administration's "surge"). Now that he gives you an opinion you don't agree with, its a corporate message from CNN and a "Push for War"? C'mon now. It's one reporter's opinion, and not an unreasonable one. Whether that merits our continued role of playfground supervisor is another question entirely.

[still_one]

19. Excellent observation, and you are right it isn't an unreasonable one

What he didn't comment on was that there is no way the U.S. can solve it

When we leave, I have no doubt the Shia will start to slaughter the Sunni, just like what happened in reverse under Saddam

Yes other middle eastern countries may come to the aid of their Sunni breathern in Iraq, and there could be a war there for some time to come. The U.S. opened this Pandoras box, and there is nothing they can do to remedy it. Now it will have to be resolved by the factions within Iraq

[RamboLiberal]

20. I agree - those here who think pulling out the troops will end

the bloodbath are as equally blind as those in the Bush Admin and McCain who think keeping the troops there will eventually end the bloodbath.

IMHO Iraq will continue to go through a tribe based bloodbath no matter what we do. I haven't seen Ware's report today, but in the past I've found him to be a very informed reporter who tells the truth from that region.

[IndianaGreen]

26. I didn't see the segment that the OP's referred to

Whether there is a bloodbath or not, the point is that we have a bloodbath now. Getting our troops out of Iraq has only one purpose: stop GIs from being killed or wounded.

I vote for getting the troops out!

[Elidor]

35. To be fair, this is not new from him

He was known to hold that opinion before his clash with McCain. So he's not exactly a lefty. I respect his blunt manner, though I think he's confused on this issue. Of course there will be a bloodbath when we leave Iraq. But the alternative is to stay forever. Apparently, four years is not long enough for him to figure that out.

I'm not a big fan of Mr. Ware, but I loved his complete and total takedown of John McCain's deranged talking points. That was fucking sweet, a thing of beauty. I give him credit for the courage of his convictions. He seems very sincere.

He's just wrong on this.

[grytpype]

11. Oh, so miracling all of the troops home won't end the war?

Folks, this war is going to go on for decades.

You want to miracle the Americans home? Fine, then thousands of people are still going to die.

[Botany]

13. as if it is not a blood bath right now

1 million dead ..... John Hopkins / Lancet study update
2 million have fled
40% of the professional class have fled .... the rest are trying
to get out.
Turks have invaded and are killing Kurds.
Shi and Sunni are killing each other @ staggering levels
no electricity
no water
no schools
A Shi ite theocracy aligned with Iran will control much of the country
A haven for terrorists is now in Iraq .... was not before we invaded

Liberal Media my ass.

[JuniperLea]

25. Mission Accomplished!

Now, where's that codpiece? heh


:sarcasm:

[MasonJar]

14. How do we reach CNN? I am definitely going to call or e-mail. Join me!

[KamaAina]

16. Earth to Ware: Eye-rack also has a border with Kuwait

Ware points out that the borders are Iran, Syria and Turkey and he says that there's NO WAY that would work because none of the countries would allow US troops there on their soil on the border.

In fact, that was Jack Murtha's plan months and months ago: to redeploy to friendly Kuwait, one of the few places in the region where we actually are viewed as liberators. How many lives could have been saved, if only anyone had listened to him?

[KoKo]

27. True...what about all the Bush Friendly Allies we could "deploy troops" to.

Good Point!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

18. Yeah, Ware's a CNN hack.

I've no idea what people see in him.

[jbnow]

22. When Ware was talking to Anderson Cooper

after the infamous interview with Blitzer Cooper asked about the reports that sectarian violence was down. Ware said some of it had just moved but it was down in Baghdad for one reason. The troops were staying in and around Baghdad with the Iraqi troops and police. He said the death squads are made up by those Iraqi troops and police so they weren't able to do their usual killing since they were with Americans 24/7.

So little was made of that chilling comment-the police and Iraqi troops are the death squads!

But given that I can see why Ware would be concerned about what would happen if we left. Who will try to keep peace if we are gone, the Iraqi troops and police? How can they rely on the death squads themselves to stop the death squads?

I don't think Ware is speaking under pressure or to please bush anymore than he spoke before to please us.I think he just says what he believes.

I'm not saying I agree with him or that we should stay. But if he is correct about who makes up the death squads it isn't going to get prettier.

I wish we had a real administration now because there should be some powerful talking and negotiating going on within Iraq and surrounding countries. It should have been going on for a long time and should have preceded withdrawal. But even if bush did do that we know it wouldn't be too fruitful.

[zulchzulu]

23. With funding...a bloodbath ... without funding... a bloodbath

It's going to be more of the same, which IS a bloodbath no matter what.

Pick your label: "ethnic cleansing" or "genocide".

Rock...hard place...

[johnaries]

29. Wait a minute, about redeploying to the borders...

Isn't the plan to redeploy INSIDE the Iraq borders to keep the other countries he mentions out? I love the way he nailed McCain, but I think he's quite confused here...

[bullimiami]

30. and theyve had that nauseating bastard, bolton, on over and over.

[Old and In the Way]

32. This same logic was used as justification to stay in Viet Nam

The North would take over and wipe out the South Vietnamese. Yes, they did take over and I'm sure there were people who were killed as collaborators...but they managed to settle their differences without an extended civil war.

I know there are different factors at play here, but the reality is that there will never be any resolution until we leave. We can delay the inevitable, but we can't stop the inevitable from happening.

[The Magistrate]

33. He Is Right, Ma'am

The pace of killing will increase when we leave, and Iran will be the principal regional beneficiary. It makes no difference: it is in the best interests of the United States to withdraw from Iraq, and the sooner the better. We will take damage from withdrawing, whenever that occurs, but we can do nothing about that: we also take damage every day we stay, and that it is in our power to end.

[KoKo]

34. Yes...but was he "caving" because of his earlier reports who got him notice

on Matt Drudge and marked him as the next CNN Layoff?

His report was very hyper. Although the CNN 6:00 report showed a much more "subdued Michael Ware" talking about the McCain/Graham "rug buying/photo op" visit where he was very "fair and balanced."

The 5:00 p.m view of Ware's Report about Feingold Bill was much more hyper and seemingly pro-Bush than his later one.

I wonder if CNN has employed Psychologists to do studies of the viewers of their various "timed broadcasts" so that they alert their correcspondents to "CHANGE" their reports to tailor them to various time frames and viewing audience in the "time slot."

But, that might be very "conspiratorial in nature" so maybe it's not good idea to question what CNN does in it's differing timeslots and how their reports seem to be "tailor made" to different viewing audience accordingly.

:shrug:

[The Magistrate]

38. He Is Saying What He Has Always Said On This Subject, Ma'am

He is a competent observer.

[MasonJar]

36. Well, since a CNN correspondent said if, we had best pay attention, n'est pas?

[KoKo]

37. LOL's maybe not you or me...but those who watch CNN... Airport, Hotel,

and old folks in Nursing Homes? :shrug: