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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 07:40 PM
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Ladies and gentlemen, what is so difficult to understand about the FEC's filing guidelines?
Edited on Sun Apr-01-07 07:42 PM by wyldwolf
In reference to Hillary Clinton reporting 36M for this reporting period and not the 26M she actually raised from donations since she declared her candidacy, why is the routine reporting and filing procedure suddenly an issue?

Candidates are required by law to report not only campaign contributions but also transfers from other authorized campaign committees, loans received from the candidate's personal or business accounts (these are NOT contributions), loans from other individuals or businesses (these are NOT contributions), refunds, rebates, dividends, interest, monetary worth of services, etc.

You are mistaken if you believe the figure candidates report to the FEC only includes contributions and you are mistaken if you belief that figure SHOULD only included monetary contributions.

It is NOT misleading for the Clinton campaign to report 36M for this reporting period. It is not "disingenuous" for the Clinton campaign to report 36M for this reporting period. It is, however, pathetic to watch people try to parse every move the Clinton campaign makes and try to assign conspiracy to each of those moves.

I can promise you - guarantee you - that every contribution report that comes in on Obama, Edwards, Kucinich, Richardson, etc. will ALL contain receipts reported other than actual contributions.

HERE is one of the forms they had to fill out. Notice what goes into arriving at the figure they report:

http://www.fec.gov/pdf/forms/fecfrm3p.pdf

And, no, I really don't care how much of the 26M is for the general.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 07:43 PM
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1. Because It's Mrs. Clinton.
The game book from the 90's is being revived.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 07:44 PM
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2. So, are you saying she RAISED $36 million in the first three months of 2007? n/t
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 07:49 PM
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3. her presidential campaigned received a net total of 36M in this reporting period
Edited on Sun Apr-01-07 07:50 PM by wyldwolf
... that includes a transfer of money from her senate coffers to her presidential account. That is what FEC filing is about.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 07:52 PM
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4. Yep, got it. She raised $26M in new funds, and moved funds from another account. Got it. n/t
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 07:53 PM
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5. No one has said anything differently.
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 07:53 PM
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6. which totals 36 million
impressive
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 07:54 PM
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7. Yep. But the really interesting story here
is that Obama raised only 4 million less, and from a cold start.
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 07:55 PM
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8. that number isn't confirmed...
Edited on Sun Apr-01-07 07:55 PM by ProudToBeLiberal
but if he does raise 22 million, it would be impressive.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 07:57 PM
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9. of course. But have you seen any Hillary supporters downplaying that?
No. But plenty are deny logic, history, and common procedure to make Clinton's report seem shadowy and suspect.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-01-07 08:23 PM
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10. of course it's not misleading
What it is is fodder for the haters who would most certainly applaud the same factoid for any other candidate.

I don't have hip boots high enough for this place anymore.
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