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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:24 PM
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What are the possibilities? Drudges Source for Kerry Story?
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 12:37 PM by KoKo01
Some posts in threads here have said it's a 23 year old intern who has fled the country but her friend leaked the story.

Many have speculated that Monica was a "set up" flashing her thong and enticing an embattled President Clinton into an affair. Since Drudge and Lucienne (Nixon informer) and others were the first to break this and seemed to know so much (like the blue dress) that they were behind it with Repug dirty tricksters.

So......now we have this supposed Kerry and the intern story on Drudge.
Was Kerry set up with a plant? An aggressive intern, carefully planted (maybe a very gullable young woman as Monica herself seemed to be) by "Tricksters/Operatives," and she carefully positioned herself everywhere he was and perhaps she insinuated herself into places where he ate lunch or had a personal problem which she would go into his office to discuss with him....whatever.

What's the likelyhood that this is another Dirty Trickster report which takes the heat off Bush (conveniently) so that Kerry will have to waste his time defending himself against this?

And, is there anything we can do to "Out" these Dirty Tricksters quickly if we think this is the case?

Are Kerry supporters getting on this?

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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:27 PM
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1. Not only possible but very probably a Dirty Trick.
This is wrong wing SOP. The redundancy of this should be a discrediting red flag.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:29 PM
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2. One thing is certain: Kerry must now address this crap once and for all
I guess he and Teresa will get another 60 minutes interview. nice.
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Options Remain Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:32 PM
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3. please people
this has RED flags of BS ALL OVER IT.

whens drudge going to throw out the details?

How about Never. this is more of his drudging crap. I wonder if Kerry can sue for Libel...

TearForger
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:36 PM
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4. Not at all. Let Kerry get more free media
and deal with these vermin. Here's a quote from his phone call with Clark Tuesday night: "These guys are scary... we know what they are going to do."
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patmacsf Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:38 PM
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7. Well, the guy has a record ....
I hate to admit it, but Drudge is the official mud-slinger of the RNC and he has been more right than wrong. Hell, we all know they got the goods on Clinton, whether we want to call it slimy or not, the basic facts were true.
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:43 PM
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14. Why. This is at the level of nonsence rumor. Expect 100 more like it.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:36 PM
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5. Kerry must have something that doesn't show if he can get women easily.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:37 PM
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6. He sure does- it's called charisma
a quality which won him so many Iowans.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:41 PM
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12. I am not a Kerry fan....but....if true...get out in front of it....affairs
are not the end of the world...not like our soldiers dying in a useless war....so...Kerry...get your butt and your wife out there and stop this before it really gets bigger than everyone. Remember to be upfront...even if its embarrassing...this is not the end...handle it.
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MR. ELECTABLE Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:42 PM
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13. Yeah, whatever
John Kerry has the charisma of stale bread.
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forgethell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:25 PM
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32. those were my first thoughts, too.
I'm glad to have a woman agree with me.
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jbfam4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:39 PM
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8. They will do ANYTHING
to take the pressure off the FLY boy *.
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SpaceCatMeetsMars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:39 PM
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9. Knowing Drudge as we do
it could be another recycling of that stupid story about how Kerry was seeing women while he was separated from his first wife in the eighties. Someone just posted a version of that story over at eschaton:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/2/6/93007.shtml

They tried to make it sound like he was a cheater in some stories last year, but when you read the stories, it was just a smear. Naturally, the cable channels pick up drudge's idiot stories no matter how fake they are! How professional of them.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:41 PM
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10. for all we know, this woman could have been before his marriage
1. we don't know if it's true. we don't know if this woman even exists or if this story is completely fabricated.

2. why would Clark drop out now?

3. what if this woman was an old girlfriend before Kerry got married? it could be a legitimate story that's twisted into something sinister to ruin him.

4. I think Dean is hitting Kerry harder because he has no other option at this point...not neccessarily because of this alleged story.

Too many flags. Republicans aren't creative. The intern affair worked so well to smear Clinton, they would recycle the story if they could...not imaginative at all. What's next? Investigating Theresa for a bad real estate purchase?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:44 PM
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15. You make a good point Gloria. It get's stale when the same trick is used
over and over again. After awhile people won't believe anything if it's so similar as to what was done with Clinton. And, this seems very similar, broken on Drudge just like the Monica story.
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eileen from OH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:41 PM
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11. This makes me totally ill
and I am not particularly a Kerry supporter (but ABB, of course) but I don't believe a word of it. And I also don't for a minute believe that Clark or Dean or Edwards or any of the others had anything to do with starting/spreading/using it. This is Rove bullshit to take the pressure off of the AWOL story, the absence of WMDs, etc.

But IF there is anything to it (which again, I seriously doubt) I'm sorry, but I think Kerry oughtta drop. We just can't go through this again. I don't care HOW it's handled, it would totally suck the air out of all the stuff that is FINALLY being thrown AND sticking to Bush & Co.

Hopefully, it will be swiftly revealed as a total lie, in which case there would be a groundswell of support/sympathy for Kerry as well as a total nationwide disgust at the Rove/Bush tactics.

Really, this makes me sick.

eileen from OH



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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:44 PM
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16. Outrageous claim. We need to stop looking @ Drudge for our news
It's disgusting. :puke:
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:45 PM
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17. Even if true (a history lesson)
Clinton had his Gennifer Flowers shit hit the fan in February of 1992 -- when he was far from certain for the nomination. He took a hit and then went on to win the nomination. Lesson to be learned, even if this is true, it is by no means a sinking of the Kerry candidacy.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:52 PM
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22. You can't swing a dead cat in Washington

without hitting somebody who has had an affair.


Non-issue.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:04 PM
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28. I agree. but will the voters agree?
That is a concern for me. They're either innoculated to it, or fed up with it.. we'll have to see what happens to Kerry's numnbers now. God.. it's happening all over again. Rove & Co... and their obsession with sex.
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:46 PM
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18. According to Drudge the sources are:
TIME magazine, ABC NEWS, the WASHINGTON POST, THE HILL and the ASSOCIATED PRESS

and

A close friend of the woman first approached a reporter late last year claiming fantastic stories -- stories that now threaten to turn the race for the presidency on its head!

and

In an off-the-record conversation with a dozen reporters earlier this week, General Wesley Clark plainly stated: "Kerry will implode over an intern issue."
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:48 PM
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19. Yet, these 'sources' are silent on this
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:54 PM
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23. Newsweak has usually been the feed into Drudge for his stories. Issakoff
leaked the "Blue Dress" to him. I guess he's branched out, or the other media whores decided his site is a good test run for their rumors of the sexual kind.
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NV1962 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:52 PM
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20. The only link between "Monica" and this is... Drudge himself
First: I don't have Kerry on my shortlist of fave nominees - that's said in the interest of full disclosure. Now...

Here we have yet another "intern case" - and yet again Drudge "breaking" the news.

I hadn't given much thought to the notion of Drudge being in on a larger, deliberate "intern plant" scheme with Monica.

But this is just too much of a coincidence.

Drudge is crying wolf too often; as a one trick pony he's lost credibility here.

Spread the meme!
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JasonBerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:52 PM
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21. God, I hope it's not true
If it IS true, feel the pain for THK, she will not tolerate that kind of behavior. I hope for a Kerry victory but remember this -- it can't be a dirty trick if Kerry truly did cheat on his wife. Nobody, if he did, forced him to do something. Timing could be questionable, but the behavior would be wrong. Again, THK wouldn't put up with this, or at least that's my guess.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:54 PM
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24. I didn't care about Clinton and Monica
and I don't care about this.

Well, I guess the only thing I do care about this report is how pathetic our society has become. We love to fixate on Clinton's penis, stained dresses, cigars, Janet's breast, rumors now about Kerry's sex life, along with the non-sexual silliness of Dean's scream.

Meanwhile, everything is going to hell in this country and in Iraq (and the world, for that matter), and all that seems to rile up Americans are the asinine examples noted above.
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:55 PM
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25. i am not a Kerry supporter but
i can't believe he would be stupid enough to have a "recent" affair, especially after what he saw happened to clinton. if he's that stupid i certainly don't want him for president. god, if you know somebody's waiting for you to trip up and you get that tempted, you RUN in the other direction. i know from whence i speak......
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 12:57 PM
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26. Why is CNN reporting that Kerry is taking a "rare" break from campaign?
This rather innocent paragraph on a CNN news story may have a different meaning altogether if there is something to the Drudge story:

Edwards, Dean chase Kerry in Wisconsin
Massachusetts senator's campaign dismisses 1970 Fonda photo
Thursday, February 12, 2004 Posted: 11:56 AM EST (1656 GMT)

(CNN) -- With Sen. John Kerry taking a rare break from the campaign trail, Sen. John Edwards and former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean tried to convince Wisconsin voters the Democratic presidential race isn't over despite the Massachusetts senator's growing string of victories.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/02/12/elec04.prez.main/

:tinfoilhat:
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:12 PM
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30. He's bracing for the storm coming....
and getting Tereasa on board for the hand holding interview they'll be doing with Baba Wawa or Diane Sawyers.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:02 PM
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27. was this the Hannity "bombshell" he was using to hawk his book?
Hmmm.. Hannity was reported to have been just elated over some juicy stuff about Kerry. Perhaps Drudge jumped the gun on Sean. We'll see if America cares about it. A collective yawn.. another sex story. Or.. Oh God, another sex scandal. Didn't take long for the attacks to start. And. there is a chance that it is true. Affairs happen. The statistics show extramarital affairs to be in the 70+% range for men. It's an easy target for oppo research people.

Geez. When will we ever get back to the business of running the country. Unless we get control of the House or Senate... we're going to have a repeat of the Clinton year. Valuable time and energy and money going toward destroying a Democratic president. Sucks.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 01:07 PM
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29. Im not
becasue Im pretty sure its false. But its funny to see how DU is all hot and bothered about info from Sludge.
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