Tucker Carlson: "There's .. something about (Hillary) that feels castrating, overbearing, and scary"

[marmar]

How ironic that such a little prick is worried about castration. - OP's observation


from Media Matters:


Tucker on Sen. Clinton: "There's just something about her that feels castrating, overbearing, and scary"

On the March 20 edition of MSNBC's Tucker, host Tucker Carlson noted that a 1984-inspired attack ad posted on YouTube.com characterizes Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) "as an Orwellian Big Sister" and proceeded to endorse this depiction of Clinton, saying, "But there's just something about her that feels castrating, overbearing, and scary." Carlson maintained: "I mean, you've gotta admit, when you watch that, it does get right to heart of people's instinctive problems with Hillary, which don't have to do with policy." Carlson further noted that the ad "seems to be the work of one person with a computer who doesn't like Hillary or, in any case, perceives the truth about her."

From the March 20 edition of MSNBC's Tucker:

CARLSON: It's hard to remember what spreading like wildfire meant before there was an Internet. Yesterday, most of the country became aware of the political ad you just saw characterizing Hillary Clinton as an Orwellian Big Sister. But this ad does not appear to have been the work of any organized campaign. Rather, it seems to be the work of one person with a computer who doesn't like Hillary or in any case perceives the truth about her.


Here to talk about the implications of the story we welcome back A.B. Stoddard (associate editor of The Hill) and (political consultant) Dan Gerstein.

Welcome to you both. Sorry, a little editorial comment had to -- I mean, you've gotta admit, when you watch that, it does get right to heart of people's instinctive problems with Hillary, which don't have to do with policy. It's not like Hillary is some communist or something. You know what I mean? She's no more liberal than Barack Obama (D-IL). She's more conservative probably in some ways. But there's just something about her that feels castrating, overbearing, and scary.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200703200013

[Lerkfish]

1. yes, all else aside, I find the "castration" fear bizarre.

[Tellurian]

6. Tucker- ...considering it took him 20 yrs to let go of his bow tie..

before that, it was his thumb and blanky! :shrug:

[LiberalFighter]

68. If he should be scared of anyone about castration it should be me ask some of my former coworkers

I have a couple of special knives. The blades are only about 2 inches long and maybe 3/8" wide. Sort of like an exacto. Very sharp. Sort of surgical type. It would only take one swip and wa la.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

84. They sell castrating knives for cattle.

To turn baby bulls into steers so their meat will be tender.

The word is "Voila" which is French for "see there". Voi + la.

Pronounced: Vwa-la.

Not to be confused with "viola" which is a musical instrument.

[madrchsod]

2. he suffers from a medical condition called sps

[oldtime dfl_er]

3. after all, little Tucker

just put away the short pants and the bow ties a year ago..

[Arugula Latte]

8. He still has his beanie with the propellor on top, though.

And his paddle with the little red ball attached.

[progdonkey]

4. didn't Jon Stewart already castrate him on Crossfire?

:rofl:

[Bucky]

80. Well, he cut his tie off, if you know what I mean. His tiny little bow tie is now missing.

[iconoclastic cat]

5. Yes, and the bow tie was so very masculine. nt

[Arugula Latte]

7. She's one-a 'dem WIMMENS!

How scary is that for these little snot-nosed snivveling idiots like Tucker?

[gratuitous]

10. Tucker's a charter member of the Real He-Men Women Haters' Club

And he has Anne Coulter's permission to say so. Coincidentally, folks who want to see Tucker Carlson's gonads can call Anne for an appointment to see them on her fireplace mantel.

[longship]

9. Ahhhh! Penile paranoia!!!

Tucker's afraid of losing his penis. What a sick fuck!

[RaleighNCDUer]

11. IOW, she reminds him of his mommy.

How do you think he turned out the way he did?

[kenny blankenship]

12. "Owning up to your insecurities is the first step" they say

Tucker is to be commended, I guess, for bravely admitting his condition in public.
Can he ever overcome those insecurities? Well... There are some things--and his condition is one-- that you just don't come back from.

[glitch]

13. Tucker speaks for The Fragile Man, who happens to be well represented by the Republican Party nt

[napi21]

14. Powerful women scare ya much Tuckie? That's too bad. I feel for ya.

Maybe you can just cower in the corner and hide so she doesn't smack the sh*t out of ya next time she sees ya!

[AtomicKitten]

15. Having already been castrated, he knows of which he speaks.

[Tellurian]

18. do you mean, Teunuch Carlson? ....nm

[bullimiami]

16. he doesnt have any balls to start with so whats he scared of.

[JNelson6563]

17. I'm sure most women who aren't doormats scare Tucker

I'd say this ridiculous statement from him says more about him (all of it bad) than it does Hillary.

No shortage of idiocy from the wingers.

Julie

[hatrack]

19. Well, at least it's about HIS genitals, not those of total strangers

Which is what I've come to expect from pretty much every Republican that ever crawled out from under a rock.

[mzteris]

20. ah - the truth at last.

Insecure man threatened by a woman.

[kenny blankenship]

22. They don't call him the "tucker" for nothing

[Bucky]

81. !!!!!!!!!

:rofl: !!!

okay, you win

[Bronyraurus]

23. He's right

Hillary comes off as a schoolmarm. Men instinctively recoil from that.

[mzteris]

27. schoolmarms threaten your masculinity?

:rofl:

Real men don't recoil from real women.

[Name removed]

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[mzteris]

31. she only seems that way to men

with "issues" ;) ;) nod nod

[Bronyraurus]

34. Not so

Every man alive has met a woman like I describe. It's a universally despised type. Clinton may not be like this on a personal level, but it is how people, perhaps primarily men, see her. Whatever their "issues."

[mzteris]

38. whatever you say

Brony . . . or is that Tiny?

:rofl:

[Bronyraurus]

40. Heh.

I'll bet that there are many here who agree with me, and they don't all have small genitalia. Is this how you treat everyone who disagrees with you?

[mzteris]

42. nope

just the ones who seem to have these types of issues (and refuse to admit it.)

Read through the posts. Most people think "Tucker" has a problem because he has a "problem".

Maybe you just don't get it 'cause you're a dinosaur. :)


If you have a problem with a PERSON, then have a problem with the person. Not because she's "that" type of woman or he's "that" type of man. Do you understand?

[Bronyraurus]

43. No, it doesn't make much sense

I realize that I've hit a nerve.

"just the ones who seem to have these types of issues (and refuse to admit it.)"

As long as we're amateur psychoanalyzing, this may be a case of someone failing to recognize behavior because they share that behavior. Is that any dumber of an assumption than that which you have made?

"Read through the posts. Most people think "Tucker" has a problem because he has a "problem"."

It's juvenile speculation and it's not worth much.

"If you have a problem with a PERSON, then have a problem with the person. Not because she's "that" type of woman or he's "that" type of man. Do you understand?"

No. I think I've correctly identified a personality trait that Clinton has, or at least appears to have. I think you're objecting to my characterization of the trait as a female one, and we can argue about that, but it would be distracting. Let's just say that bitchiness is found in both genders and Clinton appears to have it in spades.

And you don't have to have any "issues" to dislike bitchiness, now, do you?

[mzteris]

44. "Bitchiness" is an

inherently female aspersion.

I think people who insist on assigning "gender" or "racial" characteristics have a self-esteem problem. People who feel inferior often try and find "reasons" to dislike others - or the insult others - or to disparage others, in order to TRY and feel better about themselves.

Unfortunately, it doesn't really work. The person will always feel as if there is something lacking in themselves. No matter how much they try and blame others for their failings.

[Bronyraurus]

50. More amateur psychoanalysis

I don't think I'm saying anything particularly controversial here. Clinton is a cold fish. I brought up Pelosi and Boxer as examples of women in power who are not.

[mzteris]

54. There are a lot of people I know who

don't find her to be a "cold fish". They believe her to be dynamic and warm.

You want to find her a 'cold fish' - (whatever Freudianism that is. lol) - fine - just don't try and spin it now that you weren't denigrating WOMEN, period by your feeble slams.

There's a far cry from not finding someone personally attractive to you (and I'm NOT using that in a 'looks' sense!) - and disliking someone because of their shrill "schoolmarmish" ways.

Convenient how your more damning words are no longer available, eh?

[Bronyraurus]

58. I don't know why it was locked

"They believe her to be dynamic and warm."

Who the hell thinks that?!

And what's wrong with disliking someone because of her shrill, schoolmarmish ways?

[Morgana LaFey]

87. because men don't get disliked because of THEIR

shrill, schoolmarmish ways.

Get it? It's a SEXISM thing.

[noamnety]

46. Why not just admit it's a gender slur

used to keep women in their place?

All the contorted justifications are kind of painful to watch.

[Bronyraurus]

51. What is painful to watch

is your attempt to make this into a gender issue. I'm talking about one woman here, and you're trying to make it about men vs. women.

[noamnety]

56. kinda like Coulter used "faggot" to refer just to "one" man?

sad how people interpreted that to be homophobic, eh? Or how Kramer's use of "nigger" was just about one or two people, not racist at all?

When you use a slur that is derogatory against an entire class or group of people, even if you only use it against ONE person, you are saying something larger.

[Bronyraurus]

59. Not really

I'll respond as if you're making a serious point. "Bitch" is kind of different from "nigger." Blacks might back me up on that.

The latter is meant to denigrate an entire group of people as you said. When people use the n-word, they mean black person. When people use the word "bitch," they don't mean "female," they mean "nasty person."

[noamnety]

62. same thing

"nigger" is sometimes used to mean "a black person" just like "bitch" is sometimes used as a synonym for "woman"
"nigger" is sometimes used to mean "that sort of" black person, just like you are using "bitch" to mean "that sort of" woman. (As in "I love black people but I hate niggers." -- Chris Rock)

Instead of describing specific behaviors you dislike in a PERSON, you are describing specific behaviors you dislike within the context of a CLASS of people.

[Bronyraurus]

64. No

"Nigger" is almost always used to mean "black person." The only people who use it the other way are Chris Rock and racists who think that Rock's formula gives them cover for their bigotry.

"Bitch" is almost never used to mean "woman." The only people who use it that way are gangsta rappers and people who use gangsta lingo ironically.

Big, fat difference, and you should see it.

And what's so wrong with describing specific behaviors I dislike within the context of a group of people? If it makes sense anywhere, it's in the genders, because men and women have obvious differences that go beyond physical differences. I'd like to see you deny that.

[noamnety]

71. no difference at all

except that sexism is openly accepted, and racism is taboo (supposed to keep that secret).

You can try justifying it anyway you like. "Bitch" "Faggot" "Nigger" - all come from the same place, letting people know they are "other," "less than," judged negatively on something other than their actions alone. All words used to remind every woman they need to behave (make nice) or they will be considered a "bitch", to remind men they need to uphold the patriarchy by presenting themselves in a suitably macho (i.e. aggressive) way or they will be called a "faggot", to remind blacks that they need to act "white" enough so they can be a proper representative of their race (sarcasm there).

[Morgana LaFey]

88. You can TRY, but probably for all the rest of Time, you CAN'T

separate "bitch" from female no matter how hard you try.

That is the word's origin (bitch = female dog), that has been its most popular slang usage -- to deride ALL women and specific women (against whom it was used) in particular. If you're so young you think there is no negative connection of "bitch" to all women, then you've got both a little cultural knowledge and some regular education to catch up on. Personally, I just think you could use an infusion of intellectual honesty, but I'll admit that's a subjective -- and quite probably biased, given the circumstances -- guess on my part.

[noamnety]

45. "schoolmarm"

in other words, one of those horrifying situations where women are in authority, and are allowed to correct the behavior of boys. :sarcasm:

[Bronyraurus]

49. It's more about demeanor and personality

By contrast, Pelosi and Boxer seem like warmer human beings, and they have plenty of authority.

[noamnety]

57. Her demeanor and personality are inappropriate for a woman

Cause women are supposed to be "warm" - they are supposed to smile, they are supposed to use soft voices, etc.

Yeah, we get it. We've been getting it (for centuries).

[Bronyraurus]

60. Good

Which DU avatar is a serial rapist and pedophile?

[noamnety]

63. (hoping the sarcasm on the previous post came through)

the avatar is the rapist from a clockwork orange.

[Bronyraurus]

65. Well then, to correct you

The character from A Clockwork Orange is not a pedophile.

In any case, I doubt that the people who use his avatar are celebrating rape. They're probably just celebrating a kick-ass movie. The imagery is striking, you must admit.

[noamnety]

70. If you are raping 10 year olds, you're a pedophile

"Part 1 involves Alex reflecting on his illegal activity (which involves the rape of two 10-year-old girls)"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clockwork_Orange

I don't usually "celebrate" violence against women, nor do I find images of it or re-enactments of it to be "kick-ass."

I understand that others do. I'm not sure why we promote it here.

[Bronyraurus]

72. That may be in the book

but it's not in the movie, as you suggest. It doesn't really matter, because neither the book nor the movie justifies violence against anyone, much less women. The book and the movie are polemics against government's efforts to change human nature through science. I doubt you've read the book or seen the movie, but if you had and had used your brain while doing so, you would not have objected to it on the bases that you appear to.

You can't possibly be arguing that depictions of violence or unpleasant subject matter in art amounts to glorification, can you?

And again, the reason why the image of Alex is such a popular culture icon is because Stanley Kubrick dreamed up such a powerful image and it looks cool. The whole look of the movie is totally far-out and amazing. I suggest you see it before you climb onto some hysterical feminist nag and ride around condemning it.

[noamnety]

74. "hysterical feminist nag"

:eyes:

1. I've seen the movie, thanks. Did not think it was "cool."

2. If you need to resort to gender-slurs to prove you aren't a sexist you've already lost that battle.

[Bronyraurus]

75. I don't have to prove anything

And I used "nag" in the equine sense here. "Equine" means "horsey."

I wouldn't go into film criticism if I were you.

[mzteris]

77. you've "proved" plenty already.

:eyes:

[Bronyraurus]

79. Yep, guess I hate women

Sorry, ladies! See you on the town tonight, my sweet ladies!

[mzteris]

86. them, too.....

poor lad.

[benld74]

21. Not as scary as that damn bowtie!

[Dr Fate]

24. I merely disagree with her on some issues- this is BS. n/t

n/t

[baldguy]

25. But he just LOOOOOVES! Ann Coulter

[saltpoint]

26. This is the sort of nasty, misogynist smear we could do without,

no matter the candidate, but especially HClinton. Carlson's intent was to smear, plain and simple.

[Jade Fox]

28. Scared of women much, Tucker?

Hilary's only "problem" is that she is a woman with some power. Apparently, that makes Tucker want to hide under his bed.

[tsuki]

30. She's not your mother, Tucker. nt

[mzteris]

32. check

post #23....

[LeftishBrit]

33. Good grief; sounds like he needs a psychiatrist! "Castrating"???

[sendero]

35. How could anything feel castrating..

.... when you have no balls to begin with. Tucker is to manhood what a minnow is to fishdom.

[AZBlue]

36. Awwww....poor little Tucker is scared of a strong female!

Isn't that cute.

[ElboRuum]

37. Hmm. Tucker. Issues with women? Mebbe...

But that's the first question they ask you on your application for a Republican membership card. Answering no immediately disqualifies you.

[Cha]

39. HOw would fooker know?

Wasn't he castrated years ago?

[David Zephyr]

41. Tucker, there are no shears on earth small enough to castrate your tiny nuts.

I'm sure he fucks as poorly as he dances. His poor wife must truly be unsatisfied with him. Here's hoping she finds a real man or woman.

[BoneDaddy]

47. I think Tucker emasculated himself

long before he claims Hill could.

[bikebloke]

48. As if he had something to castrate.

He was probably wishing aloud.

[okieinpain]

52. I don't know about the castrating stuff, but I do wish hillary wasn't

running.

[opihimoimoi]

53. Clean up our airwaves....start with Tuckker....he doesn't promote GOODNESS

he is a denigrater along with the rest of his ilk...

[Czolgosz]

55. Odd that he'd say this because there's something about Tucker that makes me feel he's been castrated

[Seabiscuit]

61. If I were Hillary I would have castrated Bill after he admitted the Monica thing to her.

But that's no excuse for Tucker Carlson's rancid existence on this planet.

[McCamy Taylor]

66. Says more about bowtie boy that Hillary, doesn't it?

[Skittles]

73. oh absolutely

as with most conservatives, they cannot fathom women who aren't their mommy or a sex object

[DemGa]

67. Conservatives and their mommy problems

Now about that bowtie.

[MasonJar]

69. Tucker has nerve talking about Hillary or any other of our candidates

after he has spent 6 years shilling for the "moran"-in-chief. Tucker is the personification of *loser."

[yellowcanine]

76. Well at least he admits he has a problem. So he is halfway to solving it. Right?

Although it sounds more like he thinks the "castration feeling" is about Hillary and not about him. Poor baby.

[Strawman]

78. See, it's shit like this that almost makes me wanna vote for her

To force these assholes to deal with their uncomfortableness.

My fear, however, is that President Hillary Clinton would feel compelled to actually bend over backwards and overcompensate to make these types feel comfortable for political reasons. I say fuck that.

[Bucky]

82. Dr Freud says, Tucker is jealous of... (wait for it) Glenn Beck & his "typical bitch" comment

Besides being banal, Carlson's comments are also copycatted from the cruder and better repressed Mr Beck of CNN-H.

[Seldona]

83. Pathetic.

The castration thing is especially creepy. Me thinks Tucker has some serious Mommy issues.

[JackRiddler]

85. Someone please help protect poor Tucky-Wucky. Tucky-Wucky so scared. n/t