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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:14 PM
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Anyone a little uneasy about the probable path of these subpoenas for Mier and Rove etc.?
I want the purging of USAs to be pursued, particularly where a purge apparently was done to stop a criminal investigation into a Republican.

But...... I admit I am a little uneasy about the investigation and battles being a distraction (in Congress and in the media) from efforts to end this war in Iraq.

Ending the war and bringing home our men and women, caring for them and helping them is the most important objective of this Democratic Congress.

There I said it.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:16 PM
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1. i'm a little uneasy your posts seem to be so negative
Congress can multi task
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:35 PM
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13. Indeed, My Friend
There are five hundred thirty-five of them all told, after all....

It is always best when blows come at different places, from different directions, in quick succession. That is the way to paralyze the target's response, and force it into mistakes and moral collapse.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:40 PM
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14. Kind Sir!
How absolutely lovely to see you and to be edified by your pithy analysis.

:hi:
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:49 PM
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17. Waxman seems to be proving that time and time again! n/t
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:16 PM
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2. How will they distract from the Dems voting the money bush needs for the surge?
i'm not sure I understand what you believe congress would be doing about the war if their was no purge, just the surge.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:17 PM
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3. I disagree.
Ending the war is secondary in importance to restoring the Republic. The war may seem more urgent, but it is not more important.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:18 PM
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4. You have to accept the fact that the Dems CAN actually do TWO things at once!
There's NO REASON they can't persue subpoenas and deal with the many other requirements of our Congress too!
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:18 PM
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5. To end the occupation, we need to throw the bums out.
This cabal will never end the occupation of Iraq - Bush admitted as much. I believe they're committed to its continuance because it's far too lucrative, but that's the cynicism in me.

So I support any and all efforts that might lead to impeachment - including this one.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:20 PM
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6. What if it all ties together?
What if through all the investigations it is proven what most of us believe, that this admin has gone to war, has held office, has persued others and ruined lives for one reason and one reason only, total control of the government (all 3 branches) so that they and their cronies can be enriched.

If it all ties together, if it all falls into place, if but one of the investigations requires impeachment hearings or makes them resign, then there will be no one left to continue this insane war.

:shrug:

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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:53 PM
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18. The Dems are not causing bush to break the laws.
Since bush has been in office the corruption has erupted weekly and sometimes daily and it all gets lost in the next commotion that he causes. The wire tapping without court approval, making new laws as he goes along covers a lot of territory allowing him to do as he pleases including doing away with habeas corpus. The administration can no longer sweep all his garbage under the rug. Dems can not allow this law breaking to go on without objecting and having hearings.

Yes, the Dems can have hearings And try to stop the war.

bush is holding most of the war cards tho, being The Commander In Chief and all that noise. (sarcasm)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:58 PM
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20. precisely!
:hi:

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Captain_Nemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:21 AM
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22. Yes, it all ties together
I think all the hearings are important. The more information is out there that shows how badly this administration has manipulated, lied and broken the law it will lead to resignations and impeachment. President Nixon had to resign. He didn't stick around for impeachment. He was advised that an impeachment would result in a conviction. So he left.
Hopefully, that's what will happen here.
P.S. the global warming information is extremely important. After all, without a planet where would we be?
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:23 PM
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7. You mean... they should keep their powder dry?
I'm really tired of that argument.

I say use ALL their powder NOW and blow all the scandals wide open, all at once.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:23 PM
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8. Bush is scared shit-less...that's why he's acting like a tough prick- He's a frightened little boy
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 09:51 PM by GreenTea
who knows Rove is fucked once the senate swears him in...All bully are cowards and little men Bush/Rove and Cheney are no different....they are all little dick fucks who are scared little assholes.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:25 PM
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9. Not in the least. I applaud all paths leading to the restoration of Constitutional rule of law.
Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 09:25 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
MKJ
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:32 PM
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12. Huzzah!
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:29 PM
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10. Would you say you're CONCERNED? nt.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:30 PM
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11. No not at all.
They turned over a rock and a whole shitload of worms poured out. This is not a distraction, this is a festering wound in the cabal and we need to open that wound up and let the beast bleed.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:45 PM
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15. Hell NO!
See vote on S.214

http://www.commondreams.org/

On righthand side click on Senate, enter bill number.
The Senate and House have supoena power and by God if they don't exercise it, our so-called democracy and republic will die soon. And may the House set up a Select Commmittee and start IMPEACHMENT proceedings NOW and not Later!
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:45 PM
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16. It's all related. Attack on all fronts to bring down the Bush machine.
That is the only way to end this war.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 09:55 PM
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19. I decided, w/ pondering the beginning of the fifth
year of the occupation & the recent non-binding resolutions & other BS legislation that the ONLY way the ocupation & blood shed will be stopped is for these rat bastard to be out of power. W/ chucklenuts prancing around, darth cheney hiding in his lair & saurove getting paid to fuck w/ even more lives, they all have to go PERIOD! The vote in November wasn't heard or rather hasn't been heeded - shit the dems are still acting like they're in a minority, quaking in their boots. The ONLY way this all stops; comes to a screeching halt, is impeachment and the dems have to understand they have support out here for that move.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:18 PM
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21. Hear me out - not being negative, opening up a discussion
Democrats won Congress last November with a mandate to end this war. Make no mistake, we won Congress because people the war to end, and they want us to end this war.

The most recent poll was more than 60% of Americans wanting it to end. There is no good way for Bush to spin the war - it is a diasister and its victims add up to more each day. I would like to see a much more aggressive policy from the Democrats to end this war.

The public mandate is clear, the support from the Dems is clear == end the war. Even with that support, ending this war will be a knock down, drag out, all consuming fight requiring a lot of resources from the Democratic Party - and requiring alot of Congress' time and effort.

My concern is manpower - there are 500 plus members of Congress but only 20 or so that I want to be a public voice prosecuting any of these scandals. I also think Bush et al would almost welcome a battle on executive privilege because that would divert attention from their war.

I am supportive of Democrats and their ability to multi-task - but I think some are not being realistic about the time involved in this potential battle. I am not saying back away from it - I am acknowledging that it may occur at a price - that price being that those resources are not put into stopping the war.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:08 AM
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23. Your concerns are noted.
MKJ
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:28 AM
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24. It comes down to the Supremes...
If there are no sudden illnesses and this case goes beforee THIS court, as it is.. We might be alright.
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themaguffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 09:07 AM
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25. NO this is KEY.
This is indicative of everything that they do and how they do it. This is not a distraction this is it.
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