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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:26 PM
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Link needed re:Kerry denouncing Torricelli attack ad
I have little doubt that either Kerry or (more likely) Wade put out a statement denouncing the "Americans for Jobs, Healthcare and Progressive Values" Osama/Dean ad, and people here have assured me such a statement was made.

Where is it? I'd like to put this one to bed, thank you.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:28 PM
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1. it was a press release on his site
maybe someone can do a search?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:32 PM
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2. I just tried searching the archives
I posted an article wherein Kerry denounced the ads not long after the ads ran.

What I don't recall are the dates this broke and whether it would have been GD04 or GD.

If anyone can nail down the dates, I can search my own posts in the matter as I did link to it then.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:37 PM
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3. here's one I found
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:40 PM
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5. He sent a similar letter posted on this blog as well
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:42 PM
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7. Isn't there any public comment?
A puported e-mail from a Kerry staffer is not exactly the same as Kerry being on records as condeming the ads. Is there anything else?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:44 PM
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11. Not that I know of anymore than a public apology from Dean for calling
JFK a Republican.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:46 PM
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13. that's all I found in my quick search here at DU
don't know the answer, maybe a Kerry supporter can check his website. But I did remember a rebuttal from the Kerry campaign during the incident.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:43 PM
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9. Cool!
Here's some text from that thread:

The John Kerry for President campaign is not involved with these advertisements in any way - in fact, John Kerry said these ads should be pulled from the air because they are inflammatory.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:40 PM
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4. Looks like Nov or Dec 03? nt
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:43 PM
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8. Similarly denounced on the Kerry blog, midway down FWIW
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:49 PM
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16. here is the content of the blog
John Kerry has no connection whatsoever with advertisements sponsored by Americans for Jobs, Health Care and Progressive Values. John Kerry has been a fighter for campaign finance reform, especially for openness, and does not support this kind of independent expenditure ads. This type of ad does not generate the discussion we need about who has the foreign policy experience and vision to lead the country in a dangerous world.

Dick Bell
John Kerry for President

Posted by: dickbell on December 15, 2003 07:15 PM
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:54 PM
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17. PERFECT!!! Thank you!
I'm bookmarking this. Bell's the "blogmaster", right?
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:41 PM
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6. Article: It was 2 Dean donors & Gep backers. Torricelli used to back Gep.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0211-08.htm

WASHINGTON - Labor unions, former Democratic Sen. Bob Torricelli and one of presidential hopeful Howard Dean's own donors were among big givers to a group that ran ads criticizing Dean in three early voting states.

-snip-

They are Slim-Fast Foods tycoon S. Daniel Abraham of Florida, who also contributed $2,000 each to Dean and several other Democratic hopefuls; and Yankees Entertainment & Sports Network LLC, a New York-based sports cable channel that televises New York Yankees' baseball games. The network's chief executive, Leo Hindery, contributed $2,000 to then-Dean rival Dick Gephardt.

Abraham wasn't the only Dean donor giving to the group. California attorney Ken Ziffren gave $5,000 to the Jones group and $2,000 each to the campaigns of Dean, Gephardt and John Kerry. Abraham and Ziffren did not immediately respond to messages left at their offices by The Associated Press seeking comment.

-snip-

Nearly all the group's donors were backers of Gephardt, who staked his candidacy on Iowa and was in a head-to-head battle with Dean there in December.



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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:43 PM
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10. Torricelli attack ad??
The ad was primarily funded by Gephardt's unions and I saw someone say two of Dean's contributors had given money to the group who did the ad too. So how does this end up being the "Torricelli attack ad" when he gave the least of anybody? How does every damn thing that happens in this primary end up getting blamed on John Kerry?

One thing, if he's this goddamn powerful, no doubt I chose the right candidate to beat Bush.
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:44 PM
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12. Pandagon, Atrios, Daily Kos, and others took him to task
http://www.pandagon.net/mtarchives/000148.html

and he responded to them by stating that he denounced the ad.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:49 PM
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15. Wink Wink
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:57 PM
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18. lol
hehe :-)
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:47 PM
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14. Here's another:
from someone's blog:

Just received this letter from the Kerry campaign. It asserts no connection to the Osama-Dean ads and condemns them-- not quite strongly enough for my taste but enough:

Thanks for sending John Kerry your thoughts and concerns about the recent
advertisements sponsored by Americans for Jobs, Health Care and Progressive Values. The John Kerry for President Campaign is not involved in any way with these advertisements. John Kerry does not agree with independent expenditure ads by nameless, faceless entities, in fact in his 1996 Senate race, Kerry kept them out of the campaign. Using Osama bin Laden in this ad is certainly inflammatory and a distraction from a real issue of who has the foreign policy experience and vision to lead the country in a dangerous world.

John Kerry agrees with you that this campaign should be about the issues facing America...

The slowness of the response (36 hours) does show that the campaign still needs to get up to Internet speed. (Posted by Nathan at December 15, 2003 09:31 PM)
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