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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 06:24 AM
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To many Democrats, that was ... it was disloyal. (Murtha plan on MoveOn.org)
Edited on Sun Feb-25-07 06:27 AM by rodeodance

Some discussion here (LBN) where story is posted:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2744942

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Murtha Stumbles on Iraq Funding Curbs

.....Pelosi endorsed the plan in concept but never the details. The plan surfaced Feb. 15 in an unorthodox Murtha appearance on MoveCongress.org, an antiwar Web site affiliated with the liberal activists of MoveOn.org.

It came the day before the House voted on a nonbinding resolution opposing Bush's additional troop deployments that Democratic leaders had been touting as a major rebuke. Murtha dismissed that vote as he promoted his coming plans regarding the war spending bill. "This vote will be the most important vote in changing the direction on this war," he said of his proposal. "This vote will limit the options of the president and should stop the surge."

To many Democrats, that was not only impolitic, it was disloyal.

"He stepped all over Speaker Pelosi's message of support for the troops," said Rep. Jim Cooper (Tenn.). "That was not team play, to put it mildly."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 06:29 AM
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1. "the Democratic rank-and-file cracked -- on the left and the right." I do
wonder what is up at this point!

......Even after that Web appearance, some senior Democratic aides say Murtha might well have been able to save his plan if he had quickly laid it out before the Democratic caucus and marshaled Democratic leaders behind a defense. Instead, the House recessed for a week, Murtha disappeared from the media, and Democratic leaders were silent, saying they could not discuss Iraq legislation because no real plan existed.

In the face of an unanswered Republican assault, the Democratic rank-and-file cracked -- on the left and the right.

"While we're all for troop readiness, we're all for them having all the equipment they want," Matheson, the Utah Democrat, said, "I'd be very concerned about doing anything that would hamstring resources and commanders on the ground."

Indeed, Matheson and other Blue Dogs said the Democrats should concentrate on oversight hearings on Iraq policy, while refraining from binding legislation on the war.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 06:34 AM
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2. The WP has really made a big story of this.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 11:26 AM
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3. Are they trying to discredit MoveOn every way they can?
Edited on Sun Feb-25-07 11:33 AM by madfloridian
Move Congress appears to be a group that is separated by degrees from Move On. However, this appears to be a week for making Move On look bad...see my link at the bottom of the post. Agree or disagree, our media does not do their homework.

http://www.movecongress.org/content/index.php

"Contest to Rename MoveCongress.org
The avalanche of media coverage of our interview with Congressman Jack Murtha was great with one exception - the mainstream media had difficulty distinguishing between us and MoveOn.org, often confusing the two.

So, we've decided to change our name.

The ideal name would capture our mission of informing citizens about how Congress works and how they can make a difference as Congress addresses the war in Iraq and the potential military strike on Iran.

What do you think? Please forward your suggestions to: info@movecongress.org
(We will credit you on the site if you come up with the winning name!)

Thank you for your support! "


Here's their About page.

http://www.movecongress.org/content/page.php?cat=1

MoveCongress.Org Partners Include:

Win Without War - TrueMajority.org - Working Assets - Women's Action for New Directions - Faithful America - 2020 Vision - American Friends Service Committee - Unitarian Universalist Service Committee - Unitarian Universalist Association - NETWORK -
Foreign Policy in Focus


If you follow the link for Win Without War, it does have MoveOn as part of their coalition.

http://www.winwithoutwarus.org/html/coalition.html#members

Every effort is being made this week by all our Demccrats to run away from MoveOn. Guess they are pretty powerful.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1108




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