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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 03:52 PM
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I think this Libby Wait is getting just too long. Is it a myth that the longer
they are out the better for Libby?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 03:53 PM
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1. Maybe the jury has just gotten so close to one another they're hesitant to say goodbye?
Or else that woman from The Moonie Times that works for a right-wing think-tank is deadlocking the jury.

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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 04:01 PM
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7. are you serious? I don't know the jury's makeup, so this is news to me
but... this seems to be more of a conflict of interest than what the defense was arguing during selection.

wtf.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 04:21 PM
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11. Yep! See prior thread: Scooter Libby Trial - Watch Out For Juror No. 0677
Scooter Libby Trial - Watch Out For Juror No. 0677

And then there's Juror No. 0677. She is a television producer. She claimed she had paid attention to the case in a "circumfery" manner, and she has booked some of the journalists involved in the case. She was questioned about her ties to these reporters and whether she could evaluate their testimony without favor. She said yes. As for Cheney, she said, "I don't have any objective feelings about whether he would be more or less credible in this case."

She also mentioned that she was once an intern at the National Journalism Center and then an intern at The Washington Times, the conservative newspaper owned by Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church. There were no queries from the judge and lawyers about these connections. Yet might she be a conservative harboring pro-administration inclinations? Though the National Journalism Center has a bland name, it is a rightwing outfit that trains young conservative journalists and finds them jobs. Not all of its graduates are ideologically minded. But the group was launched in part by the American Conservative Union. It has received funding from the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation and the John M. Olin Foundation, leading conservative foundations. (The John M. Olin Foundation funded itself out of business in 2005.) Several years ago, the National Journalism Center was taken over by another conservative group, the Young Americas Foundation.

Jurors ought not be blackballed for their political views. But if a National Journalism Center graduate makes it on to the jury, the Libby legal team would have reason to be pleased. Fitzgerald might want to ask her a few more questions.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 04:38 PM
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12. wow. That sucks. thanks for the heads up! n/t
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 03:54 PM
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2. Don't know
I'm not liking the delay, either. Possibly they're only hung up on one of the charges.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 04:06 PM
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10. thats a good way to look it.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 03:55 PM
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3. They say that the longer the jury is out, that it means it's more likely the
accused may be acquitted.

However, this is a complicated case, and there are multiple charges. So I'm not worrying yet.
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 03:55 PM
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4. I did a big case once as a juror
none of us really wanted to see each other ever again...it is not a pleasant experience
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 04:00 PM
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6. And I did a case where we deliberated for several days
It was a civil case, and we only had one thing to decide.

Honestly, I'm usually a little sickened when I see juries come back quickly in any criminal case. There's lots of stuff to cover, and I suspect in this case, you've got a lot of very bright DC professionals who are accustomed to poring through the details. I want them to get it right.

I've no problem with it taking a few more days. A man's freedom hangs in the balance, after all.

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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 04:00 PM
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5. I was worried after only 4 hours, figuring
45 minutes to an hour per count would suffice. I fear the PhDs on the panel are overthinking and over analyzing and hogging the discussion with their "smarts". The evidence plus common sense is more than enough to convict on most if not all counts and nitpicking every nuance could be trouble for Fitz.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 04:04 PM
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8. It Is Making Me Nervous
From the evidence I read that was presented at the trial, it should have been an obvious guilty verdict.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 04:05 PM
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9. I did a complicated federal case in NY
while Fitz was trying a terrorism case in the same building. (His case completed while ours was in process.)

We had two charges and had to complete 4 sheets of paper documenting our thought/decision process.

Give them time. I wouldn't have trusted a fast verdict.
Lets assume that they are taking their responsibilities seriously.

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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 08:59 PM
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13. not to be tacky or anything, but unfortunately, you sound just like the people who were whining in
2000 about how long the process was taking, and look where that got us.
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