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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:34 AM
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need help, please. does anybody know anything about a story saying that the national park service
is planning on removing the USMC memorial at Pearl Harbor? one of my trolls is whining about this, but I cannot find a credible source.

thank you in advance.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:36 AM
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1. Have you asked the TROLL in question for proof?
Taking time to 'prove a negative' is a waste.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:52 AM
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5. yes, but so far nothing. I just wondered what he was twisting around, the delusional little twit
another of his delusions is that there is going to be a massive counter-protest on mar 17--all based on hits to his website.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:40 AM
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2. Nope
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:42 AM
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3. How freeperishly typical. Here's the story:
http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070212/REPOSITORY/702120343/1013/48HOURS

Oil within USS Arizona threatens Pearl Harbor
Park Service says spill 'may be catastrophic'

By Tony Perry
Los Angeles Times
February 12. 2007 8:00AM

The 1.6 million visitors a year to the USS Arizona Memorial in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, are told about the legends surrounding the oil that still bubbles up from the sunken battleship.

One legend holds that the oil represents the tears of the 900-plus sailors, soldiers and Marines entombed belowdecks since the Japanese attack of Dec. 7, 1941. Another tale says the oil will continue to surface until the last Arizona survivor dies.

The fact is that 500,000 or more gallons of fuel oil is estimated to remain aboard the Arizona. Now the National Park Service and the U.S. Navy, which maintain the memorial that sits above but does not touch the ship, are conducting a study of the ship and the possibility that its oil could spill into Pearl Harbor.

When 100,000 gallons of jet fuel spilled from a pipeline in 1987 - unrelated to the Arizona - it disrupted the Navy base here for two months. A 2005 report for the Park Service said a spill of 500,000 gallons "may be catastrophic."

Just a day before the attack that plunged America into World War II, the Arizona took on 1.2 million gallons of fuel oil. Much of it spilled into the water after a Japanese bomb struck it. An explosion lifted the ship out of the water. It sank in nine minutes.

As part of the Park Service study, computer experts at the National Institute of Standards and Technology are doing modeling to see how the oil may be moving inside the wreckage and how quickly the steel hull may become so corroded that it will collapse.

The public attachment to the Arizona and the memorial pose complications, experts said. Actor Ernest Borgnine, who served in the Navy during World War II, is the narrator of a self-guided audio tour of the memorial. Near the end of the tour, he says many people believe that "to remove the oil would be to desecrate the tomb."

When the Park Service works on the ship, it discusses its plans with the Arizona Reunion Association, a survivors group.

"We are very, very conscious of the sanctity of the Arizona," said Daniel Martinez, the Park Service historian for the memorial.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:48 AM
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4. It's crumbling and leaking oil. Needs facelift. Big $$$$
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 12:54 AM by Breeze54
National Park Service is solidifying plans for a $36 million face lift
and expansion of the USS Arizona Visitors Center...

More at link.
http://starbulletin.com/2007/02/19/business/story01.html

The new visitors center, scheduled to open on Dec. 7, 2009, will serve
as a "gateway" not just to the USS Arizona, but to the battleship Missouri,
Bowfin submarine and the new Pacific Aviation Museum on Ford Island, said
Frank Hays, Pacific area director for the park service.

"The larger site will allow people to spread out and provide a more reflective experience," Hays said last week.

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When 100,000 gallons of jet fuel spilled from a pipeline in 1987 - unrelated to the Arizona - it disrupted the Navy base here for two months. A 2005 report for the Park Service said a spill of 500,000 gallons "may be catastrophic."

Just a day before the attack that plunged America into World War II, the Arizona took on 1.2 million gallons of fuel oil. Much of it spilled into the water after a Japanese bomb struck it. An explosion lifted the ship out of the water. It sank in nine minutes.
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As part of the Park Service study, computer experts at the National Institute of Standards and Technology are doing modeling to see how the oil may be moving inside the wreckage and how quickly the steel hull may become so corroded that it will collapse.
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