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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 05:23 PM
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'Money Trumps Peace' (Mary Lyon)
Mary Lyon, From The Left -- World News Trust

Feb. 19, 2007 -- Oops, he did it again. That’s twice now, at least from what I can remember off the top of my head, since George W. Bush ascended to the top of the ziggurat. He gave away his game. I’m absolutely certain it was inadvertent, but that’s exactly what he did. Lucky for him, both times now, few of the people who should have been paying attention actually did so, because his blunder hardly moved the needle. But it sure smacked me upside the head. “Money Trumps Peace.”

Here it is, in context, from the latest news conference Junior so imperiously granted, on Valentine’s Day, 2007, no less (some valentine):

BUSH: It’s an interesting question. One of the problems, not specifically on this issue, just in general, that -- let’s put it this way: Money trumps peace, sometimes.

In other words, commercial interests are very powerful interests throughout the world. And part of the issue in convincing people to put sanctions on a specific country is to convince them that it’s in the world’s interest that they forego their own financial interest.

And that’s why sometimes it’s tough to get tough economic sanctions on countries, and I’m not making any comment about any particular country, but you touched on a very interesting point.

Specifically, this was a response to a reporter’s question about possible pressure our country might put on European allies who do a lot of business with Iran. But its true meaning went a lot deeper -– like just maybe, to the heart of the matter. Ladies and gentlemen, we have now seen Bush’s hand fully tipped. And he couldn’t have been more concise. To him, that’s the whole ballgame: “Money trumps peace.” That’s why he lied and cooked the books to get us into war to begin with. That’s why he’s surrounded himself with Dick Cheney/Doug Feith/Scooter Libby/PNAC types who worship at the altar of worldly riches and ruthless conquest to ensure those riches. That’s why he lusts after war in Iran. Sure, he SAYS he doesn’t have any plans or intentions to pick a fight with them, too, but that’s what he said about Iraq a few years back, even while the finished “plans” had already been approved and forwarded to those in charge of implementing them. But at least he’s finally admitted his motivation.

If we can step back in time a little bit, to the dawning of this Era of Horror, Young George tipped his hand back then, too:

Transition of Power: President-Elect Bush Meets With Congressional Leaders on Capitol Hill

Aired Dec. 18, 2000 -- 12:00 p.m. ET

GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that there were going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.

The really sad part is that these are the only two documented cases in which Junior has actually told the full truth about his take on major policy-making. Yeah, he might also be honest when he speaks about Laura, or Barney, or Drunk and Disorderly, his miscreant twins. He may even be speaking a version of half-truth about how he really wants to work with the Democrats and believes so heartily in bipartisanship. What he leaves out, provided he isn’t standing there with his fingers crossed behind his back as he speaks, is that bipartisanship is just peachy –- provided both sides of the political spectrum simply come together to do it all his way. The rest is all lies, fairy tales, lies, exaggerations, lies, misstatements, lies, smokescreens, lies, distractions, lies, and talking points -– also known as more lies.

more

http://www.worldnewstrust.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1198&Itemid=10171
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 05:34 PM
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1. I've been comparing those two quotations ever since last Wednesday,
describing them as "fall off my chair" moments.

They were equal in the fact that they were both two of the most honest though devestating in terms of reflecting how he is really wired entirely against the will of his constituents.

This is only the third article I've seen about last weeks comment.

The corporate media dutifully cowered.

Arghhhhh. . .
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 07:53 PM
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2. No kidding. That's why I underscored it here.
Everybody else slept through it, evidently (well, except for those of us here who've resolved to stay awake).

Really ANNOYING, isn't it??? :grr:

Thanks for the kick, though!

:hi:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:18 PM
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7. K&R #5 -- And don't forget.........
"In mah line a werk, ya gotta kip repeatin things over and over.... ya gotta CATAPULT the propaGANda" :kick:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:23 PM
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10. Thanks much!
Miserable bastard, he is. Miserable failure bastard. Miserable LYING failure bastard.

The only thing that's more galling is how many people are still either letting him get away with it, or don't give a damn, or aren't paying attention, or even still trusting him. :eyes:
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:11 PM
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3. And here's your visual:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:15 PM
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4. Great one!
Nice! And, unfortunately, so true.

:thumbsup:
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:16 PM
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5. He finally spoke the truth
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 09:28 PM
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16. That's what I'm thinking.
The true agenda was put out there.

Not that the sleeping public took notice... :cry:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:40 AM
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19. Yep. They snoozed on. The media as well as the public.
REALLY makes you wonder. How strong a vise-grip DOES cheney & co. have on their balls (not that they ever show any)? :eyes:

DISGRACEFUL.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 02:22 AM
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26. But if a Dem had said that......
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 09:00 PM
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37. Don't you wish they would?! I mean, as a statement of what's real,
not what should be.

Wouldn't it be refreshing if they actually called stuff for what it is?!
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 10:17 PM
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40. Now that you put it that way, Yeah I do wish they would. It's the truth, sad to say.
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:27 PM
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11. I Put The Image With The Story On The WNT Site
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:32 PM
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13. Yowza! GREAT! Isn't DU terrific?
LOTS of ingenuity and creativity here!

Thanks, Tace!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:18 PM
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6. "catpulting the propaganda"
is another time when he goofed and let the mask slip. He knows he's lying, and so do we.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:19 PM
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8. Jinx!
:hi:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:22 PM
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9. No kidding.
Edited on Mon Feb-19-07 08:22 PM by calimary
Unfortunately, our "lovely" White House Press Corpse slept through this one, too.

Randi Rhodes went nuts about it, and that's about it. :grr:

Which is why I wanted to devote a whole column to it.

Thanks for the kick!
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:28 PM
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12. Hi, Calimary! Thanks for email and PM today! I watched the press conference and said, "WHAT???"
Edited on Mon Feb-19-07 08:30 PM by Radio_Lady
Glad you and others did their wonderful thing and wrote about it!

He just makes me cringe now! I just cannot stand this person.





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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 02:01 AM
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22. I find myself more revolted by him every day.
Thinking what he's done to trash EVERYTHING within his reach. Calamity george. I'm with all those people polled by Newsweek - wishing to God this era was OVER already.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 08:59 PM
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14. Yes -- and this nugget:
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we.
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.
We must never stop thinking about how best to offend our country.”


I hadn't heard that last line until I watched a clip with the whole quote on YouTube.
Listening to him speak off the cuff is a jaw-dropping experience.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 11:41 PM
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18. Do u have that YouTube link?
I have not heard that last line until you posted this.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:32 AM
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21. It's "The Best of Bushisms"
Let's see ...
First, he informs us that he was "raised in the desert" (the deserts of Connecticut?), but it's easy to see a tide turn.

:crazy:

The snippet I was referring to in the other post begins at 20 seconds.
I just watched the clip again. It really sounds like he's saying "offend". Could I just be mishearing because of his slurred speech?
Did he actually say "defend"? Listen and see what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMLxvIbHC3U&mode=related&search=
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 06:52 AM
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28. I think it is 'defend'
but 'offend' would be another good Bushism :)
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 02:03 AM
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23. Well, that last line, I'd believe.
He's offended plenty by now. I did a column awhile back that was basically a list - a list of all the things screwed, compromised, fucked-over, and fucked-up, somehow or other touched adversely by this asshole. It went on for pages. And it's not even over yet. I think by the end of his occupation of the White House, I'll do a "sequel," and we'll all marvel at how much longer it is. The Reverse Midas Touch in action.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 03:21 AM
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27. Great article, Mary
A few years ago, I checked out the Sierra Club's website. They had listed anti-environmental actions by bushco.
The list was so long and so overwhelming that I never looked again.

Another off-the-cuff bushism was included in Alexandra Pelosi's "Journeys with George", in which she tags along with * on his 2000 campaign trail. At one point, while on the GWB campaign bus, the bus driver announces that they're about to enter such-and-such Forest. Bush turns, looks out the window, and says, "Kill it".

The guy is a walking atrocity.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 08:44 AM
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29. That's a great one: "The guy is a walking atrocity."
Damn straight!

BTW: I'm doing a little more agitating here, particularly on the Building 18 disgrace:

An updated load of TOLL FREE Capitol Hill switchboard numbers:

Posted in General Discussion forum:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x250991


Also posted in General Discussion-Politics forum:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3123083
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 09:13 PM
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15. VERY well put...
Edited on Mon Feb-19-07 09:14 PM by jenmito
Thanks for writing this. It says what many of us are thinking. :yourock: :hi:

Recommended.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 02:06 AM
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24. Merci beaucoup!
Hugs, dahlink!

:yourock: too! :headbang:
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 10:57 PM
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17. K&R
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 08:47 AM
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30. Thanks!
Edited on Tue Feb-20-07 08:47 AM by calimary
I'm so mad about all this shit by now that I can't sleep.

I wonder how george and his pals do.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 01:04 AM
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20. K&R.nt
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 04:47 PM
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35. Gracias. nt
:hi:
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 02:18 AM
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25. We won't soon forget that little phrase, will we? Thanks for another great piece! nt
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 09:06 AM
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31. I heard Dear Leader say THAT live and I was honestly shocked ...
and horrified. I told my husband when I came home and had to show him the official government transcript before he'd fully believe me.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/02/20070214-2.html

Even when he put it in context, Dear Leader's statement revealed volumes regarding the recent behavior of our Unitary Executive. :scared:

I was wondering if some good journalist would pick up on such a shocking statement.

Yes, thanks for putting this shocking revelation into words. :applause: :hi:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 09:09 AM
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32. Thanks back atcha! BTW, some great backgrounders from Octafish:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 04:53 PM
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36. That's the point. NOBODY should forget that little phrase.
ANY time soon. It's the cornerstone of the bush/cheney foreign policy. Hell, it's their life's mission statement. Their very reason for being.

Thanks, DMM! As always!!!
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:42 PM
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33. Impeach! k&r
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 10:09 PM
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38. What you said!
Edited on Tue Feb-20-07 10:13 PM by calimary
We really have no other options at this point.

If we don't take punitive action against this two-headed beast (bush AND cheney), I GUARANTEE you there will be many questions put to us 10, 20, and 30 years from now (at least to those of us who survived this era and were sentient beings at the time, and/or old enough to understand what was going on) WHY we did not stop bush. WHY we let him go unpunished, not held to account, WHY we were hesitant to hold his feet even part-way to the fire. They're gonna know why we did not take action against him and his policies, and why he was allowed to get away with it all - without consequences. There WILL be questions. And we (as a nation, mainly - I'm not counting those of us here on DU who've been working, slaving, begging, petitioning, and pushing like crazy to get IMPEACHMENT back on the table) will not be able to provide many good answers.

That will be a rawther large karmic debt that this generation will have left unpaid.
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 02:43 PM
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34. and hasnt made a fucking shred of airtime.
That one time we saw it during the press conference was it.
And if we truly had a hahah liberal fucking media, this shit would have been on a LOOP since then.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 10:16 PM
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39. Astounding, isn't it?
Edited on Tue Feb-20-07 10:17 PM by calimary
But, boy-oh-boy, let there be talk about stains on a blue dress and thong underwear flashed at a powerful ladies' man, and the loop would be NEVER-ENDING. And poor li'l michael isikoff and all those would-be muckrakers would know what to do with all that time on their hands. :eyes:

(Obviously I am NO fan of michael isikoff. Idiot can't find his way around an investigative report if there isn't a Bill Clinton reference in it somewhere.)
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