What is this? Clinton Hate Day?

[PresidentObama]

GEEZ-US!!!

Not feeling the love for the Clintons today. I wonder if Hillary Clinton wasn't a candidate in this race, if we'd be talking about Bill Clinton and his legacy digging up the past?!?

As far as the Hillary hatred, thats expected at DU. But it seems today the Clintons have targets on there back here at DU.

Whats the deal boys and girls?

:eyes:

[skipos]

1. Every day is Clinton hate day on DU!!!

:woo hoo:

[PresidentObama]

3. Today they're taking numbers....

....and taking turns throwing punches.

I thought that Bush guy was the bad guy?!? Guess not...

[TwilightZone]

6. Guess I should have hit *refresh* before posting!

:)

[PLF]

42. As it should be.

[Colobo]

2. This will get uglier

As months go by... all candidates and their people will throwing mud at each other like crazy...

The only thing we can hope for is unity after the primaries.

[AlCzervik]

4. everyday ending with a y is Clinton hate day here.

i'm not interested in bashing anybodies candidates but the right wing.

[1620rock]

8. Yes for Christ's sake. Lets remember who the real enemy is.

[Daylin Byak]

34. I know exactly who the enemy is...

Republicans and Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York.

I thank you.

[Eurobabe]

47. So you'd vote for whom in the General if she's the nominee?

NADER?? You fool. :wtf:

[Daylin Byak]

50. NADER, Your kidding me right?

No if Hillary does get the nod I will hold my nose at the polls and vote for her I won't like it but i'll do it. Yeah sure i'll vote for Ralph Nader...when hell freezes over and pigs fly thats when i'll vote for Nader.

And don't you ever call me a fool ever, got it.

[Eurobabe]

51. Get off your high horse. Read what you wrote

sounded to me like you were going to go 3rd party.

Glad to hear that you would hold your nose and vote for Clinton.

[Daylin Byak]

52. me 3rd party? no.

I have to much respect for the Democratic party to actually vote green or libertarian when the country needs a dem president.

[Eurobabe]

53. me too.

so let's be friends. :pals:

[Daylin Byak]

54. Okay, let me buy you a beer

[Eurobabe]

56. yer on!

:hi:

I like happy endings to DU spats.

[Clark2008]

64. I have a question.

What if you really, really, really distrust the nominee (and, no, I'm not speaking of HRC here)? There is one Dem candidate I simply couldn't even hold my nose and vote for should he be the nominee.

Not that it matters in my state.

But, I'm not going Nader. I'd write-in a candidate.

I would hate not to be able to vote for the Democrat - but I wouldn't, if I didn't trust the candidate.

[TwilightZone]

5. I thought that every day was Clinton Hate Day!

Isn't that a rule?

It's pretty common around here. Might be a bit more prevalent of late.

[creeksneakers2]

It bothers me too

I see things about Hillary that are unfair or even untrue. Most of the hatred directed toward Hillary is the result of perceptions molded by right wing propaganda that was later repeated by the MSM. I've seen things that were on Rash Limbaugh years ago end up as topics at DU.

[illinoisprogressive]

7. Because she made a statement re: executive power (channeling shrub)

[PresidentObama]

9. Hillary isn't my first candidate.

And I give her fair shares of criticism, but come on everybody. Lets be fair. I know the word fair and DU doesn't mix well, like me and spicy foods. But just like that, this leaves a bad taste in your mouth and is unwanted!!

[Captain Hilts]

25. I'm for Clarkie and for Ricky, but I'll give her a fair chance.

I also really like Dodd.

I don't get the hatred at all.

[Adelante]

10. What I hate is when she's blamed for stuff

Other candidates are also doing. There really is a double standard applied to Hillary Clinton.

[PresidentObama]

12. I think you're right, WesDem n/t

[Just-plain-Kathy]

21. We have to hold all our candidates accountable...

If other candidates are just as bad as Hillary, that's a real shame. We should weed them out.

After all we're talking about people who running to be the next president of the United States of America.

[Adelante]

27. Yes, I agree entirely

No free ride to the presidency for anyone.

[DemCam]

44. Some things don't seem to change, huh?

[Mark E. Smith]

11. It is just a small minority

There are people here who just flat-out hate the Democratic party. And most
of them apply the same kind of "more-moral-than-thou" nonsense employed
by their mirror image on the Republican right.

The good news is they're a minor nuisance and can be avoided.

[Poiuyt]

13. Oddly enough, David Brooks just wrote a favorable article about Hillary

Conservative writer David Brooks wrote a few days back about Hillary that I think is worth sharing. He argues that Hillary has no reason to apologize for her war vote.

more -

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2007/02/nyts-david-brooks-hillary-doesnt-need.html

[countmyvote4real]

30. Thank you, David Brooks. We needed more reasons to hate Clinton. n/t

[sendero]

65. If David Brooks said it..

... I am automatically diametrically opposed to it.

The man couldn't find his own ass with both hands.

[oldtimecanuk]

14. Nope, sorry all the Hilary supporters... But I/we just want the candidate ...

that will best represent the American people in 2008 and many opinions that is not Hilary! There are a number of other candidates out there that are much more experienced than Hilary for the job as our elected official ... ie: /b I personally would rather see Barrack Obama or Bill Richardson as President than Hilary.. (I understand before you flame me, personal choice)

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[ElizabethDC]

17. I understand that people want to promote their favorite candidates

and that's fine, but the relentless and sometimes unwarranted bashing of certain candidates (often Hillary, but others as well) is disturbing. I, for one, try to make a point of not unnecessarily bashing other Democrats. Obviously there are fair criticisms, but I don't enjoy the pure hatred that so many here project.

Also, if experience is most important to you, then Barack might not be your best choice, although I do agree that Bill Richardson has great credentials.

(Also, btw, you spelled Hillary and Barack incorrectly.)

[oldtimecanuk]

40. lol.. Yep, my spelling is really bad and I often forget to use Spell check...

Most often my grammer is right on, but don't rely on my spelling.... Oh well, I never professed to be perfect, so what the hell!

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[flaminbats]

15. who hates Hillary?

I love her, and think she is a great Senator. But not supporting her because I doubt she can win doesn't mean I "hate" her! If she provided a platform or some ideas I could either support or debate, then maybe I would consider voting for her.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com

Look at this website and then compare it to the sites of other Democrats like Vilsack and Richardson. Then you'll see why so few Democrats view Hillary as a good candidate. But I think all Democrats want to hear what Hillary stands for and to see her run a winning campaign against the rabid Republicans who have always hated her.

[Colobo]

16. I personally like Hillary

I just believe she should not be our presidential candidate. She's better than any of the Republican candidates, but we should not settle for her when we have better candidates.

[PresidentObama]

19. Thats fair.

But will you support her if she gets the nomination?

She isn't my first choice, but I hope even if you don't want her to be the nominee you'll realize if she gets the nomination we'll NEED her to win!!

[Colobo]

22. Good question

I think I would support her... but she will have to win me over. I mean, it's hard to vote for someone just because that someone is not like the other one...

I'm looking forward to the debates. That could help.

[PresidentObama]

45. Yeah, the debates will make this race much more clearer.

Right now it's all kind of in the air, and blurry.

[Tellurian]

32. You posted her PR website..

Her official site is here:

http://clinton.senate.gov/

[durrrty libby]

18. I love Bill and Hill. The rest of y'all can eat worms and die

[Tellurian]

33. My sentiments exactly...

They're probably dead already and don't even know it!

[ElizabethDC]

20. *Sigh* some days I don't even know why I come to DU

It's exhausting. I'd so much rather find a place where people beat up on the Republicans rather than on fellow Democrats. But, alas, this is not that kind of place, but for some reason I keep coming back! :shrug:

[AtomicKitten]

23. what you said

and said well :)

[Captain Hilts]

24. Say that again 'LizDC - LOUDER!

Mookie in DC.

[OKNancy]

26. Yup. I get evil thoughts

I haven't chosen my primary candidate yet, but I would get some sort of evil satisfaction if Hillary won the nomination and even more so the Presidency ( in a landslide)

Love to see the heads explode.

But seriously when McCain says he wants to overturn Roe, and when Mitt does the same, and when Rudy cries "terra terra"... that's the real reason I won't bash Senator Clinton, or any Democrat.

[AtomicKitten]

31. that is PRECISELY how I feel about it

I'd hate to see our ultimate nominee bloodied at our own hands.

I want to make damn sure the next Supreme Court justice is nominated by a Democratic president.

[Tellurian]

35. Out of 100,000 members...I think here are only 10 democrats here

maybe 12-right?

[juajen]

61. No, much more than let on

I am so sick of these threads, I usually ignore them.

[katsy]

41. But we're not like republics marching in lock-step.

We do tend to make our opinions known to our Reps/Senators/Party and here on DU. No one deserves our undying support even if there's a D next to their name. Candidates must earn our respect. We'll never be repubics, we don't have "hive-think".

I would support Senator Clinton if she were our nominee no matter what. But I do not feel political/presidential dynasties are good for our country no matter what the candidate's last name is. That being said, I see Iraq and the economy/outsourcing/health insurance issues as being the most important this next election. Hillary has stated she would pull the troops out in 90 days after being elected. Fine. But I don't see Hillary as a populist who wants to help the middle and poor classes in this country. That is important to me as a voter. I will not support her in the primary because we have other candidates that have more progressive platforms. I'll vote for her if she's our nominee but will not contribute money to her campaign because she does not need my money (she may want it but she doesn't need my pitiful contribution)... she has big money on her side. I am not big money and have no expectation that she will represent me.

[TreasonousBastard]

28. It's 'cuz we don't have Dean or Kerry to beat up on...

and it's Spring Training for the upcoming primary wars. It's gonna be hell around here for the next two years-- even after the election there's gonna be fighting over why we won or lost.

Aside from the shitstirrers, assholes, and criminally insane who love to get their 2 cents in, I wish half the effort these keyboard warriors put into their fighting here would be put into doing some good outside in the real world.

[Doctor_J]

29. The Sunday talk shows bring it out, and there are a lot of trolls about

the last few days.

[KingofNewOrleans]

36. According to my calendar

Next Tuesday is supposed to "Hate Clinton Day"

[k_jerome]

37. you can crap on the Clintons all day long...just don't diss the racist old homophobe. nt.

[PresidentObama]

38. Byrd has nothing to do with Clinton. Not sure if you knew that. n/t

[MaryBear]

39. Some people just cannot stand their success

and the ongoing loyalty and admiration they engender.

So now it is dern them they can't be elected cause they are too good at politics and folks don't like that.

[blm]

43. Or, we recognize that they are good at politics and wonder why they don't USE what

power they DO have to help other Democrats who were always there for them when THEY needed it.

The Clintons would NEVER have succeeded left to fend for themselves - they needed support from other Democrats and GOT it. Bush1 was PUMMELED for his entire term by Democrats and weakened to a 333% approval rating by election day 1992. And vets like Kerry gave Clinton full defense and cover when he was attacked by the GOP machine as a 'draft-dodger' unfit to be commander-in-chief.

The Clintons received constant support throughout Bill's terms in office, even during his wrongdoings.

They just seem to be incapable of reciprocating in kind.

[paulk]

46. it's always this way on DU

you should have been here back during the run up to the 2004 election - it was 24/7 hate Kerry back then.

[PresidentObama]

49. Yeah, I'm glad I didn't come to DU till late 2004.

I hate any 24/7 hate Democrat threads, let alone 24/7 hate someone I personally respect, like, and admire threads.

Something tells me this is going to be a LONG year here on DU!

[Eurobabe]

48. I guess alot of DU'ers want another CON in the White House in 08

Giving the opposition some good cannon fodder already.

[Skittles]

55. you sound like the pukes accusing us of being pro-terrorist

because we are anti-Iraq war.......I'll say what I think regardless of what some g.d fascist conservative thinks

[Eurobabe]

58. oh and you think I am pro-war?

:wtf: what I think is outrageous is people tearing down the Dem candidates. They do the job for the fascist conservatives.

[Skittles]

59. you COMPLETELY missed the point

your tone was one of YOU'RE EITHER WITH US OR AGAINST US - simplistic thinking of repukes....and I'll tear down a Dem candidate if they DESERVE IT - I'm not some GOOSE-STEPPING FASCIST CONSERVATIVE

[Eurobabe]

67. no you missed the point Skittles, and I am finished trying to explain it to you n/t

[Porcupine]

57. Do two families HAVE to have a lock on the presidency?

Just that reason alone is enough not to vote for Hillary. I also object to her policy statements on the war and health care. Oh, and her support of Israel.

Other than that, no.

[Superman Returns]

60. and now there's a new group

on facebook called One Million Against Hillary Clinton. Its terrible, I feel bad for her.

[MODemocrat]

62. So much so, I'm staying away from DU more and more

It's disappointing to witness the left running down their own. I am just not willing to help the republican operatives by eating my own... Arianna does a real good hatchet job too;( :shrug: :cry:

[AuntPatsy]

63. I don't hate Hillary at all, I am simply unsure of why and that

leaves me with a lingering doubt as to her true motive at this point in time.

[mitchum]

66. Deservedly so...fuck both of those water carriers