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Daylin Byak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:03 AM
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Once again Republicans got it wrong about The Democrats and the war
I'm not sure you know this about but I live in Pennsylvania and have a mail subscription to the Idaho Statesman(I like to broaden my horizions) and this LTTE I read once again proves that the Republicans got it wrong on Democrats and there views on Iraq, here read it for yourself.


Plan to win the war

Democrats proclaim publicly that Bush has no plan to win the peace. What foolishness. Even the most historically ignorant liberals know that no general plans to win the peace. Leaders plan to win the war. Upon the enemy's surrender, we dictate the peace terms. America then rebuilds their rubble into a nation. Democrats are working diligently to subvert the military, and are invested in America's defeat. Their efforts give comfort to our enemies. Democrats see George Bush, not al-Qaida, as the enemy. Democrats holding inquiries into America's war actions and not into the enemy's brutal behavior is despicable. Victory will be profoundly embarrassing to Democrats.

Democrats routinely slander America's president in time of war. Our enemies view these comments as support for their cause.

Historically ignorant, liberals disregard the oath taken by Muslims and voiced by Iran's president to destroy America and Israel. Muslims everywhere accept the Koran's requirement for the destruction of infidels. Pay attention! "Infidels R Us."

The Iraq surrender group headed by Baker thinks negotiating with lunatics is possible. Key Democrats who are calling for surrender will not be forgiven by the public when the attacks are brought to America.

Arthur Kilton, Boise


Seriously what a ignorant heartless POS. I'll say it once and i'll say it again YOU CAN'T WIN THIS WAR the militias there won't back down cause Bush and the Rethugs have given them a cause, you can't forcefeed democracy on people by shoving guns down there throats. I think I made a mistake on getting a subscription to this paper, I thought it would be liberal since it was based in Boise but I was dead wrong. Oh well in a month when my subscription is up it's on to the Hartford Courtant.

Thoughts on the LTTE?
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:20 AM
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1. So The Plan Is, To Win The War That We Never Declared??
Hard to win a war you aren't in, don't you think? lol
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 05:26 AM
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2. Sounds like the talking points for C-span callers.
Most of the Dem. I know are not for not fighting but are not for these foolish wars. We need a draft for the stock holders of these arm corp. I guess and then we would see wars that are foolish show down fast.
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 06:15 AM
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3. That was an example of how wrong Republicans are, in so many ways.
To wit.

My response to the Republican's expository...

Inquiring into the "enemy's brutal behavior" is not the responsibility of Democrats or Republicans or any other American political party. Victory would neither embarrass nor disappoint Democrats, but it would indeed come as quite a surprise--not the least for the fact that no one can even offer a reasonable definition of what would constitute a "Victory".

Democrats aren't "slandering" the so-called "President" whether in time of war or during an illegal occupation of a non-threatening foreign nation; for it to be slander, our words would have to be untrue. Whoever our enemies are, they see our ability to engage in political disagreement as one of our greatest strengths; we don't dissolve into civil war and therefore become helpless to progress as they so often do. One thing is sure, Republicans share more with those "enemies" than other Americans.

Calling liberals "historically ignorant" is like the cast-iron pot calling the polished sterling silver kettle "black". It's almost ironic how Republicans are always trying to insult others by claiming those others suffer from the very flaws which are most Republican (so descriptive of Republicans/Conservatives/Fundamentalist that they ought to be part of the definition of the term).

It's so sad; one does feel for the typical Republican. Consumed with fear and paranoia, anger, hatred and intolerance as they are. Most even lust for violence though they may not have recognized this within themselves; even if they did, their pride wouldn't allow them to admit it. Their current "boogie man" is the overarching threat of Islam. They'll refer to it as "Islamic Fanaticism" or some such term; all made up and not even as big a threat to this country as "Christian Fundamentalism" and it's foray into politics. Though they may pay lip service to admitting that "not all Muslims are violent", deep down, they're suspicious of every Muslim on earth and fear them all alike. All people who are led to resort to terrorism do represent a threat in the modern world and security really is important, but to live in such fear (terror) is both a sign their "enemies" have already achieved much of their goal and evidence of the moral and emotional weakness of Republicans themselves.

Negotiation, diplomacy, consensus; all words that make Republicans uncomfortable. Mostly because such things take patience, rational thought, effort and a willingness to see the true complexity of issues. It's never a waste of time to try to resolve conflict by means other than violence though you'd never know it from studying Republicans. No Democrats are calling for surrender; there's not even anyone out there to surrender to. The American people, in the end, won't be so forgiving, not of Democrats, but of those who led us into and supported such foolish and costly folly.

By the way, to entitle your post "plan to win the war" is erroneous in so many ways it defies response. It must be pointed out, we are not "at war"; we are engaged in an "occupation" that is illegal, immoral and highly unpopular with the people of the nation in question. Furthermore, nothing in what you wrote provided even a single suggestion that even came close to hinting at the least proposed action which would be a small part of what might be called "a plan".

In many ways, this war is a tragedy. It's very sad and unfortunate, but I find you to be equally sad and unfortunate. Were it not for people like you and for the ubiquity of their ignorance--even seeming to take pride in both being and acting out of such ignorance, America would not be entangled in this debacle. We would have long since made massive improvements in our security and, acting in concert with an organized and motivated international community, have disassembled and made impotent to a very great degree, the forces of international terrorism in the world--and made the world a much safer place. Of the two, the "enemies" you speak of and yourselves (Republicans), it's you who are most inexcusable. You've had the best opportunities and breaks in terms of living in a safe environment in which you had the benefits of public education and personal freedom; how you could have turned out the way you did--so little distinguishable from the worst IRAQI subversive, is both astonishing and deeply disturbing. Alas, your personality already is disordered and of all mental health problems, that is among the most resistant to improvement. If Democrats have a flaw, it's that we seem eternally overoptimistic that there's hope for you. I hope there is hope; perhaps through education and experience you can finally come to respect life--and recognize the value of truth and finally come to understand that just because someone is different, they aren't "evil" or necessarily inferior. I hope you can learn to quell your fears and overcome your personal greed and selfishness. I hope these things, not for you personally, but for our country and her future.




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watrwefitinfor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 07:40 AM
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5. Nicely done. n/t
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 07:39 AM
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4. The author of this LTTE is probably like some people who write
the same type of garbage in our local editorial page. They get all of their information about Democrats from talk radio and Fox News and that's all the proof they need that the bleeding heart liberal Democrats hate America and want to see the terrorist win the war. They never question what they hear, much less try to verify those "facts" by checking other sources. It's much easier for them to be fed their opinions than to actually think, debate, discuss and form their own. Besides, to change their minds now would mean admitting that the man they elected is wrong, his war is wrong and that they are wrong to still support him.
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Daylin Byak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 02:04 PM
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6. Kick
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