*****Official House Debate on Iraq War Thread 6******

[ncrainbowgrrl]

Thread #5 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3111499&mesg_id=3111499

Thread #4 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3111165&mesg_id=3111165

Thread #3 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3111015&mesg_id=3111015

Thread #2 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3110847&mesg_id=3110847

Original thread:http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3110739&mesg_id=3110739

C-SPAN Stream :http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

[ncrainbowgrrl]

1. Blowhard Rethug up now talking about jumbo jets

[Greeby]

2. They're still going? Aye carumba

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=16514&mesg_id=16514

Here is video of some of the major speeches from today's debate

[ncrainbowgrrl]

3. they're going till midnite- some good speakers up in primetime, methinks!

:hi:

[proud patriot]

4. Thanks for the threads ncrainbowgrrl

:yourock:

[ncrainbowgrrl]

5. Happy to help out, Proud Patriot!

oh... and by the way... just so you know.... :yourock:

:toast: to the GDP mod crew :-)

[ncrainbowgrrl]

6. Who's speaking now for our side? The scrolling news bar is over the name.

:grr:

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

7. K&R

[Webster Green]

8. I don't see any repuke reps getting re-elected in 2008

They are all batshit fucking crazy, and it's pretty obvious:silly:

[Check12]

9. Has there been any defections?

I have not been paying that close attention.

[dflprincess]

10. Oh God, now that fascist pig John Kline is speaking (R-Minn 2nd district)

Last week when constituents showed up at his office in Burnsville to discuss the war his staff called the police on them. The SOB is a totally Bushbot. Last fall at a rally for his opponent (Coleen Rowley) where John Murtha was the speaker and at least half the attendees were veterans, his staff people stood outside yelling "traitors" at the people going in.

[texpatriot2004]

11. K & R nm

[proud patriot]

12. This rep from New York , Anthony Weiner sounds great

:bounce:

[POAS]

14. I'm glad to see he is still

refering to the GOP as the Republic party. I heard one Republic Congress critter finally whine about it yesterday!

[wordpix]

17. he started out slow but really came on strong---a rising Dem star!

:bounce: :woohoo:

[Ninja Jordan]

21. "Republic Party"

[bdamomma]

96. hey proud patroit!! Weiner was great last nite too

that stupid Duncan Hunter is a jerk.

[POAS]

13. Rec #5

Are we all ready for another fun day with cspan?

[SIMPLYB1980]

15. Yep!

:popcorn:

[SlowDownFast]

16. Ron Paul (R-Texas) blasting admin!

He's actually a respectable Repub!

[Nite Owl]

19. Just tuning in

wish I had seen it. Hope that someone has a video up later. Paul doesn't spare no words.

[POAS]

22. Walter Jones (R-NC)

Leading the anti-surge Republicans currently making their feelings known.

Does anybody know the "caucus" he is representing?

[Nite Owl]

23. Does this help?

http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=CNIP0693


Caucuses/Non-Legislative Committees:
Airpower Caucus
Congressional Boating Caucus
Congressional Horse Caucus
Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus
Congressional Travel and Tourism Caucus
Consumer Advocacy Advisory Committee for the Blind
House Coastal Coalition
Founding Member, Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus
North Carolina Library Committee
Republican Study Committee
Co-Founder/Co-Chair, Wind Hazard Reduction Caucus.

[POAS]

24. They have a "horse" caucus???

[ncrainbowgrrl]

35. Oh, man- I missed Freedom Fries?

Darn. I wanted to hear what he said- just so i could use it when lobbying david price (d-nc-04)

[POAS]

18. Who is this guy pretending to be

LaTourette from Ohio?

He actually spoke AGAINST the "surge"....

[proud patriot]

28. Sanchez Rocked

:headbang:

[POAS]

20. Upton (R-Michigan)

Another Republican supporting the resolution and against the surge.

[zulchzulu]

25. Duncan Hunter proposes that troops have enough protection

They didn't have protection in Korea or Vietnam...so these troops are just fine. They have more equipment than ever...

I suggest we drop this asswipe in the middle of a bombed out bus in Baghdad...give him a sleeping bag and a bologna sandwich...he should be just fine.

[POAS]

26. What an asshat this Randy Forbes (R-Virginia) is!

Just an example: They (Democratis allies) control most of our media.

[Eurobabe]

27. Forbes VA-4 another freak

says the media is controlled by the "left" and the internet spreads poison throughout his district. And those protesters!

I can't believe the caliber (lack of it) people who get elected to public office.

[POAS]

29. Going on about troop losses in WWII.

[Eurobabe]

30. wasting time comparing wars that are apples and oranges

[POAS]

32. Do these idiots know the difference

between a battle between armies and an occupation?

If they want to make a comparison then compare our mission as it is in Iraq to the German occupation of France. The average Iraqi probably views Malichi as their version of the the Vichy French collaborators!

[zulchzulu]

31. Can we play "Saving Private Ryan" now on the screen

What a dick.

[POAS]

33. Did John Wayne just enter stage right?

[ncrainbowgrrl]

34. Well, we lost one D's vote/

:(

[POAS]

37. Who'd we lose???

[ncrainbowgrrl]

53. dude from georgia- don't remember who though.

Barely awake- sick and sniffly

[ncrainbowgrrl]

36. Udall up now

[Eurobabe]

38. Notice that most of the Dems are measured and calm

The CONS can't stop bloviating, hyperventilating about WW2, etc.?

[wordpix]

41. they WERE told to stick to the war on terror talking pts but they're getting even farther afield

pretty soon they'll be talking about WWI, the Civil War and the Revolutionary War.

[Eurobabe]

45. Should be interesting when they get to the Crusades and the

Fall of the Roman Empire! :rofl:

[wordpix]

39. Wasn't a Udall Sec. of Interior, maybe under Carter? As I recall, he was a great conservationist

[POAS]

40. I think that was "Mo" Udall

[wordpix]

42. is this his son? I like him

[POAS]

44. Mark Udall is Mo's son

Here is a good quote from Mo via Wikipedia:

"The people have spoken, the bastards." (After finishing second in the fifth presidential primary in a row.)

edited to add: Not sure about Tom Udall!

edited again to add this from Wiki

From 1991 to 1999 he served New Mexico as Attorney General. He is the son of Stewart Udall, who was Secretary of the Interior from 1961 to 1969, nephew of Congressman Morris Udall, and cousin of Colorado Congressman Mark Udall and Oregon Senator Gordon Smith. He is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

[wordpix]

47. bwahaha

[POAS]

54. See my "edits" to previous post!

[wordpix]

43. Saxton (R-NJ) quoting Iraq Study Group stating a surge is a good idea

[wordpix]

46. here we go---going back to '70's and Lebanese sectarian violence

[wordpix]

49. now he's talking about resistance vs. Soviets in Afghanistan "and we helped them"

He quickly glossed that over and now is onto alQuaeda and OBL

[ncrainbowgrrl]

50. hey- we're up to 1996; History flies when you're having fun?

[ncrainbowgrrl]

51. dupe

[wordpix]

55. back to Lebanon 1982 and the book, "Because they Hate," the story of living in a bunker

[wordpix]

57. "we didn't respond and the result was NYC." What does '70s-80s terror have to do with 911-Iraq War?

Big stretch

[wordpix]

58. Noww Saxton showing pictures of his family & all the little children---geesh

[zulchzulu]

48. Will Saxton (R) mention that Reagan cut and ran from Lebanon?

Of course not....

Or will Saxton mention that Reagan backed Saddam and Osama bin Laden in the 1980's?

Of course not...

Will Saxton mention that the Taliban visited Bush in Texas?

Of course not...

As Reagan said, "facts are silly things."

[wordpix]

52. no, repukes don't criticize St. Ronnie.

[POAS]

56. Blame Clinton diatribe

[POAS]

59. I'm going to cry

for his grandchildren, growing up in a Republic family!

[zulchzulu]

60. Does Saxton have any pics of the day he got out of the asylum?

Jus' askin'...

[POAS]

62. I think he's on work release!

[wordpix]

61. Dan Boren (D-OK) up now---history of Iraq War surges---Dems are sticking to the point! Yeah!

[wordpix]

63. calling for solid benchmarks in Iraq---yeah, how about it, Congress? Stop the blank checks

[wordpix]

64. Please tell me why the seats are empty during this debate. Too busy hanging with the lobbyists?

[POAS]

66. They are always empty.

Don't forget that while this is going on there are still committee hearings in session. Of course a few, ok more than a few, are probably in the bar also!

[wordpix]

71. sigh, I guess the first ever debate on the Iraq War isn't important enough for them to show up

[Eurobabe]

65. Kirsten Gillibrand D-NY-20 woohoo!

Nice presentation from a freshman member of the House!

[wordpix]

68. another rising star in the Dem party---we're noticing you stars, even tho'

the seats are empty

[Nite Owl]

84. Damn, she's my congresswoman

Everytime I go away to do something I miss a good one.
She was good?
We are having a meeting with her on Saturday to discuss Iraq.

[zulchzulu]

67. Everett obviously has proof that Iraq was responsible for 911

Up his ass perhaps?

[Eurobabe]

76. And his heads up Bush's ass n/t

[zulchzulu]

69. Johnson (D) bringing the debate back to what it should be

Thanks, Congressman.

[wordpix]

70. Joe Courtney from CT!!! Yahoo!

[wordpix]

72. "strain on our troops," "leaving us unprepared"

[wordpix]

73. Joe Sestak (D-Pa)---military forces veteran "concerned for US security;" Iraq "misadventure"

[wordpix]

74. mentions OBL "still on the loose"

[Eurobabe]

75. Yo Joe!! Great points, Osama Bin Forgotten...

[wordpix]

77. history will be written with an element of contempt---Rep. Rob Bishop (R-Utah)

You got that right, contempt for BushCo, not contempt for this debate

[wordpix]

79. our votes will be looked on with contempt---hey, ass, don't vote, then!

We don't need your anti-resolution vote, assclown

[zulchzulu]

78. So Bishop (R) likes musicals...

Arrest him now!!!

[wordpix]

80. Robin Hayes (R-NC)---resolution will be used as additional recruiting tool to show our resolve

is wavering---why don't you go over there and send your grown kids, Rep. Hayes?

[wordpix]

81. "where is the strategy for victory in this resolution?" What is BushCo's strategy for victory, sir?

[POAS]

85. Bush's strategy for victory is

to wait for the next President to take over and figure it out!

[zulchzulu]

82. Hayes (R-NC) still thinks Iraq is responsible for 911

Diplomacy is not a strategy? Really?

Fort Bragg is in his district. I wonder how many want to keep going over in the back-door draft...

[wordpix]

83. Norman Dicks (D-Wa)--faulty intel, pRes. ignores advice of experts, troops have been let down by *

[ncrainbowgrrl]

86. Yay for David Price! (my congresscritter)

[zulchzulu]

87. Miller (R-FL) going down Vietnam Redneck Memory Lane

This guy forgot his KKK outfit...and worse, he even blamed the Democrats for distracting Nixon due to the little problem called Watergate. A nice jab at Kerry when he spoke "how do you ask a man to die for a mistake"...

Does this guy have any blood in the war.

[wordpix]

89. Frank LoBiondo (R-NJ)-no attacks since 911 thanks to us & taking fight to enemy

[wordpix]

91. lol, LoBiondo also has sound muted.

[POAS]

92. Better question

Does he have any blood in his veins?

[Eurobabe]

88. Jeff Miler, sound muted, LOL

can't hear anymore CON garbage

[Eurobabe]

90. LoBiondo R NJ-2 Terra, Terra, Terra

No attacks because our troops have taken the fight TO the enemy.

So that includes Saddam? Funny how most sources say Iraq was not the cause of 9-11.

[POAS]

93. And if an attack does come

it will be the fault of the Democratic party and this IWR

[wordpix]

94. James Oberstar D-MN: Didn't support this war at the outset, no rationale for sending troops to Iraq

[zulchzulu]

95. Throw Boener the brick...

The guy gives me the willies...

[bdamomma]

97. Boehner detached from reality like the rest of them.

[halobeam]

98. bye Peter King...

whew... he stinks.

[bdamomma]

99. I hate these repigs, what BS they are spewing.

[bdamomma]

100. Chris Shays another jerk

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

101. New Thread over here......

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