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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 01:18 AM
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Are Dick and George willing to attack Iran and Syria before leaving office?
<snip> Seymour Hersh has a new report about how the Bush Team plan to prevent Congress from interfering with any actions Bush wants to take against Iran, even if this action violates legislation passed by Democrats to prevent funding of regime change in Iran. Does anyone remember Iran-Contra scandal?

A month before the midterms, Cheney told participants of a national-security discussion that if the Democrats won control of Congress, it would not prevent the Bush Team from proceeding to take action against Iran:
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/11/19/144758/22

When Bush signed the Iraq war resolution, he issued a statement challenging the constitutionality of the War Powers Act, indicating that he could take the nation to war without obeying its restrictions. Unfortunately, even if the president were to agree to the act's restrictions, he could still attack Iran and have up to 90 days before being required to get congressional authorization for the attack.

What to do? Congress should not wait. It should hold hearings on Iran before the president orders a bombing attack on its nuclear facilities, or orders or supports a provocative act by the U.S. or an ally designed to get Iran to retaliate, and thus further raise war fever.

....The law should be attached to an appropriations bill, making it difficult for the president to veto. If he simply claims that he is not bound by the restriction even if he signs it into law, and then orders an attack on Iran without congressional authorization for it, Congress should file a lawsuit and begin impeachment proceedings.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/20...

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 01:22 AM
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1. It may be a lonely project. Just Dubya, Uncle Dick, Bill Kristol,
Condiliar, one or two GOP Congresscritters, Bob Corker, and select staff from FOX News.

And Prime Minister Howard.

That's it.

The military, the Congress, the CIA, the media (increasingly), and not least the PUBLIC are not interested.

There are some doors on which one does not knock without cause. Iran is one such.

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 01:30 AM
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4. How true
W is being recognized as the renegade president who listens to no one, not even his own people. His rationality is highly questioned.

His legal claim to the presidency will always be a question. More voted for Gore, and 2004 may have all kinds of illegalities.

I just want him gone. He's done more to divide America than anyone in our history. He just needs to be gone.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 01:35 AM
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5. Hi, Erika. I hear you on all counts.
I loved your second paragraph.

That 2004 election is going to ring loud and long across U.S. political history.

Yes.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 01:23 AM
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2. K & R
bottom link doesn't work
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daveskilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 01:28 AM
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3. who says they are leaving office?
invoking FDR and all that - terms three and four for furious george and the organ grinder mr cheney? if we are at war why have term limits?
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DKRC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 01:42 AM
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6. My thoughts exactly! They've consolidated so much power to the President,
why would they hand it over to anyone? Especially a Democrat.
There's alot of talk about they're evil, but I honestly think we're being naive to believe anything we've seen so far is the extent of what they are willing to do to keep control over all that they've grabbed.
Rummy got fired back in Nov., but he's still over at the Pentagon... You think Bush & Cheney are going to simply hand over the WH...
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 01:50 AM
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7. Willing? Like hell! They are going to bomb both Iran and Syria ...
and who is going to stop them?

They don't answer to anyone, not even Poppy. :grr:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 01:57 AM
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8. Well it appears that congress doesn't have as much power
as they would like. I believe that the Bush Admin really has set itself up to have dictatorial powers! Wouldn't take much to rationalize some sort of attack as a "retaliation"...which maybe why pictures of the weaponary "found" in Iraq were being flashed on our screens over and over again all weekend long and then again today. :shrug:

Even as the panel discussed issues from past conflicts, Senator Kennedy used the session to focus on a possible future conflict, asking the panel about what authority Mr. Bush would have to attack Iran. The panel’s members agreed that he had the power to take what actions he saw fit to deal with any short-term threat that Iran might pose to American troops in Iraq, but that he would need some form of Congressional authorization to begin any large-scale or long-term conflict.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/30/washington/30cnd-congress.html






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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 02:33 AM
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9. What do Dick & George have to gain by bombing Iran before leaving office??
Who' benefits? Oil companies, certainly Defense contractors, - A permanent US. presence? what?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 02:39 AM
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10. I can only guessShrub knows he failed in Iraq, and believes he
can succeed in destroying Iran via bombs & missles, and that would save his a** in history.

Other than that,he may be just pissed off because Ahmadinijad isputting him down and makinghimself look like the good guy, and Shrub can't take THAT!
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AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 03:57 AM
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13. All of the above.
With control of Iraq oil almost complete, and Iranian oil just a few bombing missions away, big oil plus their friends in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait will control a big chunk of the world's proven oil reserves. Then there are the no-bid contracts to Halliburton, Bechtel, and the military-industrial complex and you are looking at some serious profit possibilities. Are you ready for $4.00 a gallon gasoline?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 02:43 AM
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11. Why wait for the bastards to attack Iran before impeaching?
We have sufficient grands for the impeachment of Bush and Cheney now. It should be done now in order to save lives.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 03:34 AM
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12. The attacks are scheduled for next week actually
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