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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:09 PM
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IT'S TIME!
Time to set a deadline and bring our troops home. It's time to have a workable plan that addresses what the Iraq's need to do and how best to keep our soldiers out of harms way. The situation is terrible, things are not going to change because of the"surge".
Now we have to get tough and force this administration to listen to us!


http://www.setadeadline.com/

Senator Kerry is proposing a deadline and a well thought out and workable plan for Iraq. While Republican's play around with this issue and make it political, Senator Kerry knows this is the defining issue that will shape our nation for years to come. Now is not the time to play politics with soldiers lives, now is the time to take action and do the right thing- end this terrible mistake that is weakening our nation and killing our soldiers and Iraqi's in increasing numbers daily.

Please go to. http://www.setadeadline.com/ and become a co-signer to a bill that can bring our soldiers home and end this tragedy.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:13 PM
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1. I have to believe every effort helps. Done, and thanks. nt
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shery Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:35 PM
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8. Hi
I believe that while you are doing the most of your effort to bring your troops back
Bush and israel are trying to get iran in another war

I would like to remind you that Iran never been the country who attack their neighbors
though Iraq by blessing from USA did attacked iran before when saddam hussein been the president
and The funny thing is you were the one who hanged saddam !!!

The one who fought iran for you !
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:53 PM
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11. Hi, and I think you may be correct that Bush wants a confrontation with Iran.
Edited on Thu Feb-08-07 12:54 PM by wisteria
That would be very dangerous thing for President Bush to do, so that is why he as to be made to understand, he has to listen to the will of the people and our Congress too.

And, yes, it is strange how "our friends" become "our enemies" in the political world.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:15 PM
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2. Yep
:thumbsup:

To not set a deadline, is to keep signing blank checks to bushco to spend money and lives wantonly.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:17 PM
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3. Until Kerry sets the date himself & says bring them ALL home immediately
he knows that his rhetoric is nothing more than a drop in the bucket

There have been many much stronger pleas made by many more Democrats OTHER than Senator Kerry to bring our troops home. What's his deadline date, btw? Did he set it?

Maybe if Kerry was opposed to the war all along like Obama has been, maybe his emails would mean something.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:25 PM
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5. You mean when Sen. Obama said things like this last year
On-the-record on the floor of the US Senate and as captured for posterity in the Congressional Record? Sen. Obama was reacting to the idea of setting a firm deadline for getting out of IRaq. He criticized the KErry/Feingold amendment that sought a firm deadline of July 2007 to withdraw out troops:

For all these reasons, I would like nothing more than to support the Kerry amendment; to bring our brave troops home on a date certain, and spare the American people more pain, suffering and sorrow.

But having visited Iraq , I am also acutely aware that a precipitous withdrawal of our troops, driven by congressional edict rather than the realities on the ground, will not undo the mistakes made by this administration. It could compound them.

It could compound them by plunging Iraq into an even deeper and, perhaps, irreparable crisis.

We must exit Iraq , but not in a way that leaves behind a security vacuum filled with terrorism, chaos, ethnic cleansing and genocide that could engulf large swaths of the Middle East and endanger America. We have both moral and national security reasons to manage our exit in a responsible way.

I share many of the goals set forth in the Kerry amendment. We should send a clear message to the Iraqis that we won't be there forever, and that by next year our primary role should be to conduct counterinsurgency actions, train Iraqi security forces, and provide needed logistical support.

Moreover, I share the frustration with an administration whose policies with respect to Iraq seem to simply repeat the simple-minded refrains of ``we know best'' and ``stay the course.'' It's not acceptable to conduct a war where our goals and strategies drift aimlessly regardless of the cost in lives or dollars spent, and where we end up with arbitrary, poll-driven troop reductions by the administration--the worst of all possible outcomes.

As one who strongly opposed the decision to go to war and who has met with servicemen and women injured in this conflict and seen the pain of the parents and loved ones of those who have died in Iraq , I would like nothing more than for our military involvement to end.

But I do not believe that setting a date certain for the total withdrawal of U.S. troops is the best approach to achieving, in a methodical and responsible way, the three basic goals that should drive our Iraq policy: that is, (1) stabilizing Iraq and giving the factions within Iraq the space they need to forge a political settlement; (2) containing and ultimately defeating the insurgency in Iraq ; and (3) bringing our troops safely home.

Congressional Record. Sen. Barack Obama, June 21, 2006.


Maybe is Sen. Obama had been in favor of setting a deadline after getting into the Senate, your criticism would mean more.

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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:34 PM
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7. I like Obama. I just wish he didn't vote to fund a war he was against. It kind
of undermines his position.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:35 PM
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9. How many Democrats have voted to stop supporting the troops? nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:38 PM
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10. How many voted against a deadline in June 2006?
Too damn many!

Will they vote for one now?
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:27 PM
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12. The 3100 + dead troops? Most except for Kucinich and a few others not running.
He tried to keep them out of harms way. You can't have a war without money to pay for it.

It's unfortunate that the rest of the Dems seemed more worried about keeping their jobs (fingers in the wind)than saving lives.

This primary I'm voting for a Candidate with the courage of his convictions.
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:35 PM
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14. Obama co-sponsored the Levin amendment
and in November, he also proposed his own plan for phased withdrawal. In fact, just a couple of weeks ago, he introduced binding legislation of his plan- one that establishes a cap on troops and a timeline for full withdrawal of US troops.

Not to mention, he never would have voted for the IWR to begin with.

I don't recall Kerry setting a deadline for troop withdrawal in 2004 or 2005. If you are going to criticize Obama not proposing to do so prior to the end of last year, shouldn't all legislators be subjected to similar scrutiny?

You'll have a hard time convincing me that Senator Obama is somehow more complicit in the Iraq mess than Kerry or other politicians, simply because his decisions don't happen to match Kerry's or anyone else's timeline. I'm not saying that to slam Kerry or anyone else. I just think that when one looks at the situation objectively, Obama is far less at fault than a lot of others.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:26 PM
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6. Kerry to introduce bill calling for a November 2007 deadline for withdrawal
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:22 PM
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4. Troops home
That will only embolden the CIA......errr I mean Al-Kida....errr I mean our enemies :sarcasm:
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:30 PM
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13. Your are right Wisteria. It is time to bring them home.
Maxine Waters layed out a plan to bring them home this summer didn't she. Why don't we just use her plan?
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 02:26 PM
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15. I am sure that will be discussed in the house. And perhaps sent to the Senate for review. n/t
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