So, Matthews says he's "hearing" that Repugs are pushing for Hillary and

[KoKo]

Buchanan verifies this while laughing saying that the Repugs will never vote for Giuliani and Matthews says "well so you are saying that four years of Hillary might be acceptable to you guys." (paraphrase)

So you heard it from two Horses Mouths (asses) that the Repugs are not seeing anyone they like enough to vote for and will "cough*** down Hillary" until they have a chance to "Regroup" and come back strong in '12. (Meantime they will make life hell for Hillary and Bill and we will have MONICA IN BIG TYPE all over again)

They went on to complain about the Senate not voting for any resolutions and that all the vote change did was have Reid back down and the Senate to "walk around whistling."

It was really like watching some psychodrama where they were falling all over themselves pushing Rudi but saying he can't win and that they will have to accept the inevitability of Hillary ...while they lust for Rudi's "Decisiveness" and big balls. Rudi is not winnable but they all love him including Mike Barnicle, Buchanan and Tweety...and the Senate is Crap under Reid and so they are just going to have to "hunker down" and go with Hillary. :rofl:

:crazy:

[snowbear]

1. Of course they're pushing Hillary on us !!

One of her campaign staffers was on Tweety's show about a week ago and Matthews asked him..

"Are you hiring people to dig up dirt on the other candidates?"

"Do you have bloggers and other people out there snooping around or pumping up Hillary?"

The guy wouldn't say a word...

I think we're getting hit by BOTH sides.

We've gotten Hillary's team on the left pushing her at us.. and the righties in the media, the blogs and everywhere else pushing her on us from the right.


AAAAahhh!!!!!!!

[ginnyinWI]

2. of course they want her to be the nominee.

It's been looking that way for a year or so. Then they can shoot her down! They know they don't stand a prayer of winning the next election unless our nominee is someone they can smear bigtime. I think that they think a female candidate, especially Hillary, would be relatively easy to knock down. They don't want her to win--they just want her to be the Dem nominee.

[xkenx]

4. My thinking also. I posted this on another thread.

They is blowin' smoke at us.

Rethugs have been touting Hillary as inevitable and bemoaning their chances against her for years now. Rethugs are calculating, conniving liars.
Rethugs know Hillary can't flip a single red state, and perhaps can't even hold PA, WI, NH. Rethugs are itching to run agasinst Hillary; she is free $100M worth of advertising to rally their troops. Red state Republicans WILL come out to vote when the choice is Rethug X vs. Hillary. Since R's outnumber D's in red states, DUH! So the Rovian theme is to appear to be afraid of Hillary while praying for that battle. She doesn't even have the anti-Iraq card; she signed the IWR and was a major Bush enabler on Iraq among Dems.

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[cui bono]

6. Um... no. If she goes down it won't be because she's female thank you very much.

WTF. She fights back 100 times harder than most men would, like our past candidates. Personally I don't support her in the least, but she won't take any crap, and will mostly likely hit back twice as hard.

[Tellurian]

9. How do you figure?

"They know they don't stand a prayer of winning the next election unless our nominee is someone they can smear bigtime."

What else is possibly left to "smear" her with?

Hillary, was inoculated long ago against smears and scandals.

And she is the strongest candidate in the field.

I just don't understand. Please explain it to me.

[ginnyinWI]

17. they can smear and will

I know they will try to smear anybody, but I am thinking that they may have an advantage with Hillary because a lot of people on the right already believe a lot of smears from the past--and they will have stuff they can build on. I just think, overall, that they think it's going to be easy to finish her off. They may be wrong--but I'm saying that I think it is the perception of those on the right that they can finish her off fairly easily.

[Tellurian]

18. I don't see the advantage..

people have become hardened and bored with all the smears that turned out to be BS-
I wouldn't be surpirsed if they asked Republicans for a refund for all the Clinton's legal fees.

[KoKo]

3. Coming UP...Tucker Verifies....Hillary is Repugs Choice!

:rofl: It's a MEME! He's going to talk about a Cocktail Party he went to...He now has a Guest Panel on Discussing it. He says "The Politico" is saying that "it's difficult to beat Hillary."

Tucker is saying...it's all about HER MONEY..

Dodd is Second in Fundraising! Hillary has $11mil already, Dodd is second (probably Wall St.) Now they are saying that Obama is at a distinct advantage. Tucker saying Tom Delay saying Hillary is best choice...

Tucker says ALL HIS LIBERAL FRIENDS support OBAMA...so he can't understand what's going on. :D

I just turned it OFF...couldn't stand the :puke: anymore.

[fuzzyball]

7. Every republican at my golf club is petrified of Hillary Clinton

I am a distinct minority politically at the private golf
club so I stay out of political debate. But I can tell
you they are absolutely scared shitless that HRC will be
the next president.

[knight_of_the_star]

8. That's the problem

Enough Repugs will come out to shut her down because they do NOT want her in office, and she doesn't have enough support in her own party to carry the day.

[KoKo]

10. Are your Golf Club Members GOP or "DINO DEMS?"

Just asking because I'm wondering how the "Golfers" are doing. Lot's of DU'ers may not know...but Golfers have some "interesting viewpoints." And, while we moan and groan about NASCAR DADS AND MOMS...the GOLFERS are another FORCE that needs to be monitored. THEY HAVE MORE MONEY...

[PresidentObama]

12. Excuse me? Will be next President?

With all due respect, she hasn't won anything yet. Not the primary, not the general election. She'll have a run for her money with Barack Obama and John Edwards, and we have another year before all these polls matter. Wait until the debates even start before you are proclaiming her the President!!

She hasn't won anything yet, and I know a lot of Democrats who are willing to bet she won't win anything either. And as far as GOP being "scared shitless," I think a lot of liberal Democrats are the ones "scared shitless" by Hillary and she rallies the GOP base. They love attacking the Clintons.

I will vote for HRC when and if she wins the nomination, till then she hasn't won anything yet....

:hi:

[Jack Rabbit]

11. I don't think it matters who the Republican nominate in '08

The only way the Republicans will win is if the Democrats nominate Lyndon LaRouche.

[skipos]

13. I do not have anywhere near your confidence

30% of America approve of Bush. Diebold or not, tens of millions of people thought Bush would be better than Kerry. Nader likes the last 6 years enough to want to get in the mix and help Republicans again in 08.

08 will not be a cakewalk for us, especially if HRC is nominated imo.

[KoKo]

14. I'm not always a "quick take with humor" but even this "humor dunce" got that ONE!

:rofl: Lyndon LaRouche! Geeze with what's going on out there...maybe it could happen! :eyes:

[The Magistrate]

19. Absolutely Right, Mr. Rabbit!

!!

!!

!!

[Gloria]

15. Well, Ed Schultz said last week after getting back from DC that it was all

around Washington that Bill is under watch and that they will spring a sex scandal which people will get tired of and just vote Republican as a reaction.

(I think it was last week, may have been earlier).

Now, before you laugh....Remember the photos and mini-tempest over Belinda Stronack (sp?) the Canadian conservative (who then switched parties, I think)--very rich...hanging around NYC and the NY Post spread the photos of Bill and her having dinner or whatever....and they had the trial run of the innuendo going, too....

[KoKo]

16. You are saying they will Push Hillary and Bill will have another "weakness" and Repugs

will Pounce with whatever Candidate they have. Maybe Newtie will come in at the last minute?

Problem with that strategy for Repugs is that America has come a looooong way since the Clinton Scandals and what they are seeing now so outweigh's Clinton's cock that it would take some pause for all but the most ignorant poltically and morally of them not to see that continuing Bush Policies is DEATH FOR AMERICA.

But, given how clueless most Americans (who don't vote ..only 42% did in the Mid-Terms) it's possible that the Pundits like Matthews and Buchanan and the rest can get away with what they are doing.

In the meantime...we Dems better make sure we know WHO we are voting for and WHAT EXACTLY their POSITIONS ARE...or our Goose will be cooked, too. :-(

[The Magistrate]

20. Sen. Clinton v. Newt, Ma'am

We would win in way that would make President Roosevelt v. Alf Landon look like a damned close run thing....

[Tippy]

21. I read somewhere that their will be another scandel

involving the Clintons...reopening the Whitewater investigation was mentioned....This was about two weeks ago or a little more...I have been under the weather and havn't been following things closely so I wasn't suprised to see what Schultz had to say....

[NewYorkerfromMass]

24. Not Whitewater - the Travel Office firings

The thing is that the Travel Office firings were instigated by Hillary, and nobody at the WH would owe up to it. It was what drove Vince Foster over the edge.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/arkansas/etc/foster.html

[mtnsnake]

22. I guess that shows why Hillary has more of a chance than what posters here think

Not only is she a powerful candidate with mainstream Democrats across the nation, but she also turns on many of the people we couldn't turn on in 2004. Until someone proves otherwise, the lady is a winner.

Edwards and my man, Obama, have their work cut out for them. So do the Repukes if Hillary gets the nod. She's far more likely to win a general election than what is reflected here on our forum.

[Strawman]

23. Well, the RW pundits want her for sure

Bashing her is a cottage industry for them. They don't even be imaginative and think up new bullshit if she wins.

But I suspect the Republicans on the ground in each state might have mixed feelings. She might run the toughest campaign, but she would also motivate alot of the Republican base to contribute against her and get out and vote. I'm not sure how that all washes out in the end. Does the Clinton team's experience and skill at running presidential campaigns trump her high negatives or vice versa? I don't know the answer, but it's an important question in assessing her "electability."