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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:24 PM
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Is John Edwards The Next Howard Dean? Debate the article, laugh at the typo
In the opening paragraph, Dean is spelled with a capital D. Edwards with a capital E. Clinton with a capital C. Bush with a small case "b."

Oh, and it is an interesting article.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1586810,00.html
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:26 PM
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1. Nope. I don't think Edwards is the next Dean. Dean is a 1 of a kind...fighter
Edited on Wed Feb-07-07 02:27 PM by xultar
He'll handle up. I don't know how Edwards would handle up. I'm not sayin anything bad about either...it's just that Dean is in a class on his own. Dean was meant to lead the party.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:31 PM
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2. I don't think JE is another HD only that HC is going to get the nomination
JE tries hard and people like him but HC has more clout
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:35 PM
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3. Don't count him out.
I see a lot of potential in him that I don't see in others.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:37 PM
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6. I agree, but the moves are starting.
People are coming to DU just to trash him...the right wing is going after his bloggers and he fell for it. Hopefully he reconsiders.
Just watch the publicity moves.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:48 PM
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11. Heh - the moves are more obvious with every passing day. Tonya Harding's boys
have their next target in sight.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:51 PM
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12. Yes I like him
but the whole thing is sewn up already
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:36 PM
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4. Hillary is "inevitable".
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:37 PM
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7. I don't know about that. If Clark or Gore entered the race, things could change a lot.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:53 PM
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13. Yes if Gore enters the race things could get tricky for Clinton
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:39 PM
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8. So was Howard Dean, but you were just fine with that.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:43 PM
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10. He was only "said" to be inevitable. Hillary really is.
He was an upstart with nothing but us stupid uninformed grassroots.

She has the real power, the big big big money.

We could fund our whole party with some of her money. But such is the way of the world.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:55 PM
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14. well, then, more power to Hillary!
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:56 PM
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15. Correct
I like Dean he's great and also doing a fantastic job as chair but things were sewn up that Kerry would be the nominee in 2004 so that bush could win? The GOP are going going to 'sit back' for Clinton this time and she will become President.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 03:01 PM
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16. Nope. The elite thought they had Kerry punched out in the fall of 2003 - he fought to get
that nomination. If the powers that be wanted Kerry they would have directed money to his campaign in the fall. But they didn't. Kerry financed the last two months of the primary on his own.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:32 PM
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22. Good answers for Jeopardy- nm
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:23 PM
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20. Obama and Edwards will also raise a lot of money before all is said and done
Gore would too if he got in the race. Richardson, Dodd, and Vilsack have next to no shot because they can't raise money.

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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:36 PM
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5. The "president" before bush's name was also lowercase.
Normally it should be capitalized. Interesting. You'd almost think someone did it intentionally...nah!
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:40 PM
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9. That's how Mistress Condi addresses him...
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 04:42 PM
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25. No no. She refers to * as her 'hus--, I mean, the President'
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:56 PM
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17. Nah...Edward's star will plummet much sooner and faster than Dean's.
I do not believe he will be a first-tier candidate by the time of the Iowa caucus.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 08:12 AM
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24. Hope springs eternal, doesn't it?
The fear is palpable from you people.

:rofl:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 04:52 PM
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26. Dean's star is on the rise. Did you catch the 2006 elections that he won?
Edited on Thu Feb-08-07 04:55 PM by Dr Fate
n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 05:01 PM
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30. The Clarkies creed...get Edwards.
Back up and running some of the sites.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:49 PM
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18. We MUST contact the media
Edited on Wed Feb-07-07 10:50 PM by antiimperialist
Let's not just gather in DU and discuss how mean and nasty the right and the corporate media is. Let's contact them and let them know we are aware of their ridiculously biased content, in which it is ok when John McCain hiring a controversial hatemongering blogger (Patrick Hynes), but it is not ok when John Edward's bloggers use the term "Christofascists" when the William Donahue, the person who criticizes Edwards' bloggers, is a racist who once said that Hollywood "is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular,".

Contact this idiotic blogger called Kate Phillips from the New York Times, to cite just one. She wrote an article today titled "Edwards’s Blogger Blooper". But has she ever reported on McCain's hiring of Hynes? Or Donahue's comments?

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/02/07/edwardss-blogger-blooper/
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:53 PM
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19. I blame stupid Americans for the effectiveness of baseless smears
If any combination of two or more major media outlets hints at the possibility that something said or done by a Democrat is inappropriate, the stupid, too-lazy-to-do-own-research American voter will read the title, and first paragraph at most, and will walk away determined to vote for a Republican, without bothering to check the facts.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:31 PM
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21. Republicans = The Plague
Republicans I know are ashamed to admit their Republicans-
I wonder why?
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 07:49 AM
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23. Dean had the credibility of being a long serving governor.
Edwards is a better media politican than Dean was in 2004. He has a charm that may play well in gentler areas of the country than my own. My two problems with Edwards is his lack of experience and his vote on the Iraq war.

Dean had a pretty clear cut position on Iraq and was opposed to the war when it was unfashionable among the chattering classes to oppose it. Dean also had a long record as Governor of Vermont.

I don't see much of a similarity except that Edwards is attempting to appeal to the same voters as Dean did.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 04:54 PM
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27. Will Edwards be as ultimately successful as Dean has been? Who knows.
Can Edwards match the winning effectiveness & popularity of Dean?

Time will tell.

Hey- good catch on the typo.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 04:55 PM
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28. I think you can make that argument without being accused of
being either from the left or right and out to bring down his candidacy.

There are a lot of similarities - both ran campaigns where they went after Dems in Congress for not doing their jobs, both ran campaigns where there current rhetoric was often starkly different than the positions they held when in elective office, and both targeted their appeal at netroots activists.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 05:00 PM
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29. Edwards will never be Dean, but he seems to have adopted
a more forceful, personal, and from the heart style of delivery, which was very appealing in Dean.

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