did you know the dems gave Kucinich the cold shoulder

[donsu]

he wanted to announce his backing for a Peace Department of the govt.

they gave him an out of the way room and no backing for the press meeting.

[MuseRider]

1. No I didn't

but I wish I was surprised by this information.

[rodeodance]

2. Time to write a letter to Ms Peolsi as NO dem should be treated like that

when talking of a Peace dept!

[TwilightZone]

3. He "announced" his support of a Peace Department during the '04 campaign

in the debates.

Is this something new or the same thing?

[lojasmo]

11. Same thing...more political self-agrandizement.

I'm not convinced that official space should be given for primary campaign grandstanding.

Unless there's an actual bill he's authoring.

[Robbien]

4. Democratic leadership always gives peace a cold shoulder

All the while talking about non-binding resolutions and deployment timetables and benchmarks. Plus their willingness to hang tough on bombing Iran.

Peace is not in the Democratic Leadership dictionary.

[Strawman]

5. We're not supposed to publicly say we want to promote peace

We're only supposed to use "muscular" rhetoric and announce we're "reporting for duty." Peace is for sissies. No so called "NASCAR dads" or "security moms" will vote for a pansy or flaky old hippie who says that. :sarcasm:

What a crock of shit.

[MaggieSwanson]

6. He scares most them

because certain Dems would rather NOT let people hear just how practical a Department of Peace would be. It's way easier to marginalize him when folks think it's just a pie-in-the-sky rainbows-and-unicorns type of proposal.

Dennis Kucinich has pragmatic ideas and a breed of courage that unnerves the status quo.

I'm not surprised by your report. Do you have a link so that I can read more about it?

Edited to correct a typo, and add a few quotes and a link.

"Citizens across the United States are now uniting in a great cause to establish a Department of Peace, seeking nothing less than the transformation of our society, to make nonviolence an organizing principle, to make war archaic through creating a paradigm shift in our culture for human development for economic and political justice and for violence control. Its work in violence control will be to support disarmament, treaties, peaceful coexistence and peaceful consensus building. Its focus on economic and political justice will examine and enhance resource distribution, human and economic rights and strengthen democratic values.

We must change the metaphor of our society from one of war to one of peace. The Department of Defense now requires in excess of $400 billion for its activities. A Department of Peace can be an effective counterbalance, redirecting our national energies towards nonviolent intervention, mediation, and conflict resolution on all matters of human security."

http://kucinich.us/issues/departmentpeace.php

[donsu]

7. this was read on c-span's Wash. Journal this a.m. don't know which paper

or maybe it was a verbal report by Roll Call or the other one the hosts of W.J. use.

[MaggieSwanson]

8. Thanks, I'll see if I can find it.

Media blackouts are hard to find links to! Thanks for reporting this one.

[Ron Green]

9. Peace takes courage. That's hard. War takes fear. That's easy.

The Democratic leadership is trying to do it the easy way.

[haymark]

10. Media blackout

RW media is silencing the greatest peace advocate in congress.

[Imagevision]

12. Kucinich is the straightest shooter out of the bunch, - we don't want that though...

[Vidar]

22. Exactly. Might distract from fund-raising & selling out.

[LaPera]

13. The Dem's all but ignored him in 2004 - The ONLY true liberal progressive running then & now!

Running for president, for those who don't know...Since the Dem's or the media never give Kucinich any respect or consideration...it's always the big bucks, sell your soul to the corporates moderate Democrats that they want to see run.

[Imagevision]

14. And yet, they'll give Ralph Nader the time of day...

[happydreams]

15. In 1911 at the World Peace Foundation...

You never hear about these efforts; one speaker, Francis McCullagh, worried that there could be war in Europe, proposed establishing a medal of honor system for those who fight for peace. He railed against the glorification of war and said it will destroy civilization if we don't do something about it. He then went on and described this vast and profitable armaments industry so hungry for profits that they sell armaments to countries they know will be their enemy, and they even foment hostilities between nations then sell to both sides.

His is just one example.

I've been reading alot of hidden history lately.

Feingold & Kucinich in '08

[Greyhound]

17. Fascinating, this time in our history was such a critical era and we made

so many mistakes that we are still paying for today. The Federal Reserve system, income taxes, the Trusts, the rigging of the stock market, League of Nations, etc.

Got any more nuggets?

[happydreams]

20. The muckrakers

I used to wonder what happened to them. I now know they were systematically destroyed by the Morgan banking empire when Morgan bought into their publications then became their "editors". Also Taft, a Morgan puppet, attacked them by jacking up postal rates for magazines.

By the 1920's JP Morgan (now run by his son Jack) had a near hammerlock on the media--buying through proxies.
A veritable horror story.

Then House of Morgan pitched in to help Mussolini to power...

[happydreams]

21. Federal Reserve was largely a creation

of Paul Warburg, a key financiall adviser of Woodrow Wilson. Warburg's brother Max was adviser to the German Kaiser. After WWI the two brothers got together again at Versaille.

Very strange stuff going on, very strange.

[Greyhound]

16. The DNC and the ruling elite have kpet him on the outside looking in

the whole time, he is one of their "progressive props" that they trot out to mollify us when needed and then put back in his box until needed again. I just hope that he can survive the primary process and bite them in the ass. He is the only candidate, so far, that is saying anything that makes any sense and has any chance of improving the sad situation we are in.

[burrowowl]

18. Why am I not

surprised?

[LWolf]

19. No, but it's no surprise.

The way his party patronizes and marginalizes him is reprehensible, in my opinion, and I like the party less for it.

[leftofthedial]

23. the congressional "democrats"

have allowed the neocon media to paint traditional mainstream Democratic values as "wacky."

So when someone actually speaks what most of us believe, it is so alien to the cogs in the DC machine that they can't handle it.

[FredScuttle]

24. Was this before or after Kucinich decided women should have the right to choose?

Or maybe after his 2nd divorce?

Dennis Kucinich is the Pat Paulsen of the Democratic Party.

[Greyhound]

25. Two divorces and the ability to look at facts and change his mind, you're right

he should be forced to serve two terms for these heinous acts.:sarcasm: