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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 06:14 PM
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Kucinich Is the One
Edited on Sun Feb-04-07 06:27 PM by Flabbergasted
If you are really looking for a candidate who will actually change things and work/do the job he is supposed to do:

Read this:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020506/terkel/2

snip

At the arrival gate of the Chicago-to-Cleveland flight, a skinny kid who appeared no more than 19 or 20 reached out for my torn duffel bag. I thought he was one of those Horatio Alger heroes, whose opening line is usually "Smash your baggage, mister?" This one said, "Did you have a good flight, Studs?" I'll be damned, he was the person I had come to visit, Dennis Kucinich, the Boy Mayor of Cleveland.

He was 32 then, though he could pass as anybody's office boy. As he carried my bag through the corridors of the airport, passers-by called out, "Hello, Mr. Mayor." I was slightly discombobulated, turning around several times to make sure whom they were addressing. The following are passages from our conversation in 1978.

snip


I've always been taught to respect authority, although I was more independent than the other kids my age. I was constantly getting into squabbles with teachers. I was the first person in my family, on both sides, who ever graduated from college. I love literature. My mother taught me to read when I was 3.

In the late sixties, I didn't go right from high school to college. I worked for two and a half years. When I was 17, I moved on my own and rented an apartment above the steel mills. In the same neighborhood where The Deer Hunter was filmed. The frame house I lived in overlooked the steel mills.

When I was in grade school, I would scrub floors and help with janitorial duties to pay my tuition. When I got into high school, I worked as a caddy at the country club, from 1959 to '64. I was carrying two bags. They called it workin' doubles. Going forty-five holes a day, six days a week.

I believe in the work ethic. There's a tremendous dignity in work, and it doesn't matter what it is. What some consider menial, I found to be just a chance to make a living. I always tried to do the best I could at that time. Work hard, get ahead, that was my American dream.

We lived next door to black people. It was integrated. There's a lot of poor and working ethnics who have to struggle their way into the system, who can identify with black people's striving. I'm trying to show both that the color of the enemy is green. (Laughs) This is a city run by the Mayflower-type aristocracy. It's as if the people here don't even exist. Until recently. We seized the decision-making power through the ballot box. If the black movement did one thing, it created ethnic pride.

more....


Then go here and make your own choice....


http://kucinich.us/user/register






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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 06:28 PM
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1. Agreed. My nightmare (kidding, sort of) is that both he and Clark will
survive the primaries when we in the west actually get to vote, and I have to chose between them. As it is, I'm pretty sure I will not have the opportunity to make that decision, the Party Power Brokers will make sure of that. We'll get to make the false choice between corporate whores in the primaries, and then get to do it all over again in the general.:shrug:
:kick: & R
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 06:31 PM
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2. It is a hard choice. I've decided and I've registered. n/t
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 06:33 PM
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3. Kucinich at a minimum, should at least be heard...
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 06:36 PM
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4. I'd support Obama too. But I really like Kucinich! n't
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 07:32 PM
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6. Obama for me too (if the General doesn't run..)

If General Clark throws his 4-stars in..

If Wes jumps in..

My top candidates are in this order:

1. General Clark
2. Senator Obama
3. Governor Richardson
4. Senator Edwards

Kucinich is a fantastic Congressman.. but presidential candidate?
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:22 PM
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29. Kucinich was mayor of CLEVELAND at 32....and he has the best platform.
Richardson is a close second. Obama is third for me at the moment.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 07:25 PM
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5. As should all who make an effort to run.
Each will come with something different to the table and I for one will at least try to listen to them all before making a choice.
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Luckyduck Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 07:36 PM
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7. Kucinich platform
Here is a shortened version of his presidential platform- also the issues he is fighting for in Congress...

1. US out of Iraq * 12 point plan
There is a compelling need for a new direction in Iraq, one that recognizes the plight of the people of Iraq, the false and illegal basis of the United States war against Iraq, the realities on the ground which make a military resolution of the conflict unrealistic and the urgent responsibility of the United States, which caused the chaos, to use the process of diplomacy and international law to achieve stability in Iraq, a process which will establish peace and stability in Iraq allow our troops to return home with dignity.

I am offering such a plan. This plan responds to the concerns of a majority of Americans. I will present this plan to leadership and members as the only viable alternative to the Bush Administration's policy of continued occupation and escalation. Congress must know that it cannot and must not stand by and watch our troops and innocent Iraqi civilians die.



2.Universal Health Care
We must establish streamlined national health insurance, "Enhanced Medicare for Everyone." It would be publicly financed health care, privately delivered, and will put patients and doctors back in control of the system. Coverage will be more complete than private insurance plans; encourage prevention; and include prescription drugs, dental care, mental health care, and alternative and complementary medicine.



3. Jobs and Withdrawal from NAFTA and WTO
I have a Jobs Plan that will put 2 million Americans back to work at a living wage in such enterprises as rebuilding schools, designing roads, refurbishing environmental projects, and manufacturing steel for water systems. The Kucinich jobs plan will also increase the quality of life in America, by making highways safer, water cleaner, and schools more conducive to learning.

Unless we cancel the WTO and pull out of NAFTA, corporations will continue to move jobs out of the country and produce goods in developing and third-world nations (with great costs to those countries' workers and environment). In order to buy American, we have to assure that goods are still being produced in America. That's why we must first cancel the WTO and pull out of NAFTA, which have lost us millions of jobs and spurred a soaring trade deficit.



4. Repeal the Patriot Act
Without a warrant or probable cause, the FBI can now search your private medical records or access your library records. Your doctor or local library is forbidden from notifying you when these searches take place. The government may search your home while you are away and in some cases even confiscate your property. Judicial oversight of these measures is virtually nonexistent. These are only a few of the PATRIOT Act's provisions that compromise our civil liberties.
I believe the only way to stop these unconstitutional infringements on basic American freedoms is to revoke the exorbitant powers the PATRIOT Act has granted the government. I voted against the PATRIOT Act. I am working to repeal it.



5. Guaranteed Quality Education, Pre-K Through College
The right of every American child to a high-quality free public education is one of America's most treasured principles. We must improve the quality of public education in those schools that are struggling and expand public education to include pre-kindergarten beginning at age 3 for any families that want it, as well as tuition-free college for millions of students.



6. Full Social Security Benefits at Age 65
My platform is centered upon a non-negotiable commitment to preserve Social Security against all assaults. I stand to return full Social Security benefits to senior citizens at age 65 -- a rollback from the present age of 67. In addition, I staunchly oppose all efforts to privatize Social Security, thus diverting payroll tax dollars into individual accounts. I am against raising the retirement age, against raising the cap on taxable wages, and against means-testing for benefits.
There is no question that America can afford to uphold its social compact with its senior citizens. The finances of the Social Security system are more secure now than ever. America is wealthier than at any previous point in Social Security's history, and the fund is solid through 2042 with no changes whatsoever.



7. Right-to-Choose
The fact is that most Americans, including myself, are uncomfortable with abortions and feel there are too many of them. At the same time, the vast majority of Americans recognize that there are circumstances in which a woman and her doctor should be allowed to make this most difficult decision without government intervention.

I have a plan to reduce abortions by encouraging family planning, including abstinance training, combined with a full economic and health care plan that would clearly alleviate the number of abortions.



8. Balance Between Workers and Corporations
Whenever there is an organizing campaign, a picket line to walk, jobs to save, working conditions to improve, laws to champion, I'm there. This is my purpose: To stand up and to speak out on behalf of those who have built this country and who want to rebuild this country. This is my passion: To raise up the rights of working people. Workers' rights are the key to protecting our democracy.

There can be no true corporate accountability unless corporations are accountable to workers. There can be no accountability to workers unless workers' rights are protected.



9. Environmental Renewal and Clean Energy
To repair the earth, America must lead. We must reverse course on most Bush Administration policies and support the Kyoto Treaty that Bush rejected. We must strengthen environmental laws and increase penalties on polluters. We should provide tax and other incentives to businesses that conserve energy, retrofit pollution prevention technologies, and redesign toxins out of their manufacturing processes. Nontoxic, safe substitutes for hazardous chemicals must become permanent.
I would initiate a "Global Green Deal" to use our country's leadership in sustainable energy production to provide jobs at home, increase our independence from foreign oil, and aid developing nations with cheap, dependable, renewable energy technologies like wind and solar. A clean environment, a sustainable economy, and an intact ozone layer are not luxuries, but necessities for our planet's future.


10. Restored Rural Communities and Family Farms
Initiate a major new program of investment in rural America, putting thousands to work rebuilding invaluable public assets such as schools, hospitals, libraries, swimming pools, and parks. Teachers, doctors, veterinarians, and other important service providers would be offered incentives to work in under-served areas.

Shift USDA funding and focus away from the promotion of concentrated intensive and industrial agribusiness. The new focus must benefit family farmers, rural communities, the environment, and consumers, with policies crafted to enable farmers to earn a fair price and to provide safe, nutritious food to all people.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 07:40 PM
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8. ...
#3 would be an incredibly hard sell...moreso to the corporate-driven media than anything else.

#4 would be met with harsh opposition from both sides I think. People are still fearful of the Arab boogeyman...and for some reason believe the Patriot Act protects them from that.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 03:37 PM
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22. I'm not so sure about that (#4) My new Dem Senator Jon Tester ran on repealing
the Patriot Act.

And isn't about time we stopped letting the Corporate driven media make our decisions for us?
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 11:19 PM
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11. That should be every Democratic Presidential candidate's platform.
IMO, that's about perfect, except there's no mention of election reform.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:29 PM
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34. If that were every Democratic Presidential Candidate's
platform, I would be willing to give my vote to any of the candidates.

Election reform?

<snip>

am strong supporter and co-sponsor of H.R. 2239, otherwise known as the "Voter Confidence and Increased Accountability Act of 2003." If enacted, this bill would:

Require all voting machines to produce a voter-verified paper record for use in manual audits and recounts.
Ban the use of undisclosed software and wireless communications devices in voting systems.
Have required all voting systems to meet these requirements in time for the general election in November 2004.
Require that electronic voting systems be provided for persons with disabilities by January 1, 2006.
Require mandatory surprise recounts in 0.5% of domestic jurisdictions and 0.5% of overseas jurisdictions.


<snip>

Our election system is in need of serious reform to expand and enrich democracy. I support measures such as:

Instant Runoff Voting (IRV)
Comprehensive campaign finance reform and Clean Money public financing of the public's elections
Ample free television time for candidates, coupled with the break-up of the media monopolies that restrict political debate
Election Day as a holiday
Election Day voter registration
Enhanced voting rights enforcement
An end to the racially-biased disenfranchisement of felons who have served their time
Full Congressional representation for residents of the District of Columbia
Cross-party endorsement or "fusion"
An inclusive debate process that does not exclude credible third-party candidates
Expansion of elections, using full (proportional) representation, which assures more accurate and broader representation than winner-take-all elections
I also support Instant Runoff Voting. IRV offers a cost-effective way of insuring that the winning candidate is preferred by a majority of voters; it encourages voters to vote their wishes and not their fears; it promotes greater voter turnout and positive campaigning.


There's more. These are <snipped> from his campaign site. I can't copy the link, as I'm having a firefox problem at the moment, but I think it's:

kucinich.us
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:09 PM
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27. Kuchinich should be President on policy alone, let alone his personal qualities
The world will sigh with collective relief when Shrub is hustled offstage, we'd all be dancing with joy if Dennis became President.
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Egalitarian Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 09:54 PM
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9. K&R. Stumping for my dream.
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Luckyduck Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 10:23 PM
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10. Listen to Kucinich on Health Care
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Egalitarian Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 11:47 PM
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12. Excellent article! Recommended
ONe more rec to get this great article on the Greatest page?
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 11:58 PM
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13. K&R.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 12:08 AM
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14. If everybody voted on just issues, Kucinich would win in a landslide.

nt.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 01:02 AM
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16. my thoughts exactly
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 01:00 AM
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15. you bet
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 02:50 AM
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17. K & R. Kucinich is honest, smart, incorruptible,
Edited on Mon Feb-05-07 02:50 AM by Mr_Jefferson_24
...qualified, and courageous -- exactly what we so desperately need in national leadership.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 04:20 AM
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18. Late night kick
:kick:
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:13 AM
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19. You Mean you have not accepted that only Hillary can save us?
Edited on Mon Feb-05-07 06:14 AM by TheWatcher
You have not accepted the Lord Our Clinton as your Democratic Candidate?

I am afraid I will need to see your Papers, Citizen.

Your words endanger the agenda of the cause for our Great Homeland, and Hillary's Secret Plan to end the war if she is elected.

You are only enabling the enemy with this behavior.

All jesting aside, I agree with you, and I felt the same way the last Election.

If you want true change, Kucinich is your best shot.

Good Luck with that one here though.

True Change seems to be a tough sell these days, even on our Site.

Kicked And Recommended.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 03:42 PM
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23. I think that this time around the whole environment, the candidates included, are lining up
to give Dennis a good shot at snowballing.

For one thing, Dennis is the only one in the race now who can be called a peace candidate.

That could change if Gore enters the race, but until he does, I've got to go with Kucinich.

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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:41 AM
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20. Supported DK in '04.....doing so again
Edited on Mon Feb-05-07 06:41 AM by AnOhioan
None of the other candidates voices my concerns like Dennis
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:02 AM
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21. Oh but he's unelectable unelectable unelectable....
:sarcasm: At least, that's what I have been told by the bright lights here at DU.

As a voter in a late primary state, I sure wish I had the chance to vote for someone other than a previously selected Pol. And this year the pressure is really on to select a "winner" even before the good folks of Iowa and New Hampshire get their say....
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 03:54 PM
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24. Naw, I think this year Obama, Clinton, and Edwards may siphon support
from each other, and leave Dennis as the plurality candidate.

Here the numbers. Say that from an inside the belt way Corporate media vs the Dem activist perspective the numbers add up to 60% status quo 40% real change dynamic.

If the anointed top 3 roughly split that 60% and Dennis is left with the 40% for real change, then we win. At least we get a large number of delegates to get us to a wide open convention.

Gore would change that math significantly, if he runs.



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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:27 PM
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28. Not out of the question
Almost to a person, the Kucinich supporters are unenthusiastic toward Hillary or Obama. Where they were persuaded to accept Kerry in 2004, they won't be so easily persuaded to accept anyone else this time, not with the way Kerry, with his inept campaign staff, blew the chance to win over the Bushboy in a landslide.
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Mrspeeker Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 03:58 PM
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25. K&R
Yeap he is the only one!!
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 05:04 PM
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26. still the one
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:32 AM
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36. .
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 06:31 PM
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30. He is the most liberal candidate with integrity and working class values. I support Dennis!
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liberal renegade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 07:36 PM
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31. He needs to starting
making some noise. It seems as though he's been muzzled by the media... Say it loud, Dennis

:patriot:
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 08:02 PM
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32. kick
Edited on Mon Feb-05-07 08:12 PM by cosmicdot
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:20 PM
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33. DK is the only one of the announced dem candidates I would vote for...
...in Nov. 2008. It's early yet-- there might be others-- but right now DK is the standard to beat, IMO.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 10:35 PM
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35. Me, too. And this time, if he's not the nominee,

I'll write him in.

The only way to improve the party is to support the best candidates, not just vote for anyone who calls himself/herself a Democrat.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:34 PM
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37. Too bad he doesn't have a prayer of winning
He's not even going to be close to getting the nomination. I like him, don't get me wrong, but if he gets more than a few percentage points, he will be torn apart in the media, over things like his proposal for a "Department of Peace".

I'm mistrustful of anyone Marianne Williamson endorses, also.
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