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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 10:05 PM
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I'll bet if a Democrat started pushing IMPEACHEMENT instead of ending the war...
They would easily win the 2008 nomination.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 10:11 PM
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1. Kucinich already has, to not much interest, sadly. nt
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 10:24 PM
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5. agreed... sad.....
but...

he's running for president and most don't believe he will win. What if he just wasn't the dem to do it right now.

Ex.. if Biden wasn't running/or Reid decided to seriously pursue impeachment wouldn't there be a better chance of bringing out Americans in response, and therefore other congress/senators?
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salib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 10:11 PM
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2. How about BOTH:
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 10:15 PM
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3. I should phrase it a different way ...
If a Democrat SUCCEEDED in pushing impeachment, he would be a shoe in.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 10:21 PM
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4. And they'd lose the general election.
But that wouldn't happen, because they wouldn't win the nom. I know it's a nice idea, but absent some baby-eating or dog shooting on the south lawn by our fearful leader, fuggedaboutit.

Here's why: Anyone getting rabid about impeachment, who is also OUT FRONT as a candidate, becomes a lightning rod and a laser-beam focus of GOP ire.

And the GOP badly needs a whipping boy, or girl, to get the faithful out in numbers, lined up at the polls. THey just aren't as enthused as they used to be, and that is a concern--the GOP rely totally on turnout. They didn't get it in 06, and it screwed them.

Even people on the right are getting tired of the same old Hillary Punching Bag. It's the GOP FAVORITE, "Oooooooh, nooooooo....Hillary Cliiiiiiiinnnnnnnntonnnnnn could be Prezzzzzzidint!!!! We're doooooooomed!" They've said it so damn much that even the rabid GOP crazies are saying, "Yeah, yeah...she may not be our cup of tea, but she hasn't burned down the Senate yet...."
She just isn't as scary as she used to be. Familiarity has ruined their campaign against her.

So, anyone who gets up and screams "IMPEACH!!!" -- if they are on the primary ballot -- would be the focus of the biggest, baddest GOP hit campaign you ever saw in your LIFE. And the GOP? They'd hold their fucking noses, and nominate a MODERATE. And next thing ya know, a Democratic slam-dunk turns into a horse race....

I'd like to see the first impeachment noise be totally bipartisan--with a bunch of OLD warhorses, say, Kennedy and Byrd, and maybe Warner and Lott, joining with eight to ten representatives (at a minimum, more is better), evenly divided by party, to issue a statement calling for an INVESTIGATION (which is step one before you start yelling for the clown's head) into the conduct of the President--then, when the investigation reveals misconduct, we're off to the races for impeachment.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 10:55 PM
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6. how come the republicans can impeach a popular president and still win elections
but we are afraid to impeach because we think it will cost us an election? I don't get it.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 08:03 AM
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10. Because Newt owned the House, and it was about s-e-x, you see!
Republicans want everyone to think they're built like Ken dolls below the waist...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 11:21 PM
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7. Someone needs to 'give it up' for the country. The front-runners won't
do it, but someone needs to. Murtha was the first respectable person to scream 'foul'. Maybe he would work. How about Biden? SOMEONE, please!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 08:04 AM
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11. It doesn't have to be a candidate...like I said, bipartisan old warhorses.
Maybe the Libby trial will pull up a few more good surprises...here's hoping!
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 12:58 AM
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8. It is clear that the war will not end while The Decider is in office.
So if we want the war to end any time before 1/20/09, impeachment is a must.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 07:27 AM
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9. and get crucified by the media
the fun part would be watching the other nominee hopefuls scurry away from the person in question as fast as they can.
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