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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:12 PM
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Hillary-bashing email
I just received one forwarded many times but ultimately from one "Cmdr. Hamilton McWhorter, U.S.N. (retired) ". He says Sen. Clinton was the only Senator to refuse to meet with Gold Star Mothers. Would you like to read the whole thing?

Does anyone know if this person exists and what his credentials/history are, and any validity to his claim?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:14 PM
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1. Knowing the history of these emails, it's probably wrong.
Edited on Sat Jan-27-07 09:14 PM by BullGooseLoony
That certainly doesn't sound like something she would do, anyway. She's much craftier than that.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:14 PM
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2. Hmmm, yeah I'd appreciate it if you'd post it here.
Let us take a look :)
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:16 PM
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6. Jumping on bash Hillary threads?
Why don't you just go to Freeperville and read it yourself?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:19 PM
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10. If the OP is going to post about an e-mail they got.
Edited on Sat Jan-27-07 09:19 PM by Kerry2008
Why not post it? I asked them to post the e-mail.

I did not make judgment on it, did I? Didn't think so.

Freeperville isn't my kinda place ;)
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:21 PM
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14. Check Scopes then.
This is like 5 year old tired Freeper crap.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:24 PM
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19. Link was much appreciated.
This kinda bullshit gets old, eh?

When will the Freepers learn?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:21 PM
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15. Why not post it? How about because it's doing the work of Freepers, that's why.
Why would you want to read it? It's as legitimate as any of the anti-Kerry bashing crap that went around in 2004. Did you like when that was posted?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:26 PM
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21. Posting it on DU won't be doing the work for Freepers.
Especially since it's been proven as total bullshit.

Of course I didn't like the anti-Kerry bashing crap, but I listened to it. If you are going to defeat your enemy, you have to learn how they work.

No harm done...
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:15 PM
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3. Hiding Thread...
The ultimate Freeper cod. Just ignore it.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:15 PM
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4. Snopes is your friend
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:15 PM
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5. Snopes has it
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:16 PM
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7. Political urban legend -- Hillary wasn't in town that day
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:17 PM
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8. So it's just bullshit?
More or less?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:21 PM
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12. Yup. Reading the Snopes article would only reinforce your disgust
for right-wingers. They just distorted shit, again.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:22 PM
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16. Yep, like most Hillary bashing, from both sides. Utter bullshit. nt
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:17 PM
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9. I do not like Hillary but, that is not right. He may be the one who has that
web site, stop Hillary now. It's a Texas conservative dedicated to stopping Hillary from the presidency.
I don't want her to be prez at all but, this is our fight and our primaries. This is not something for the wingers to get involved in. We will decide ourselves.
You could google the site and see if this is the guy
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:21 PM
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13. I just read snopes and the letter is really old. 2001
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:25 PM
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20. I think the stop Hillary guy
is John Boutillier (sp?).
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:20 PM
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11. McWhorter's name has been used for years.
Some freeper must really hate that guy.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 10:03 PM
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23. Actually it might be an admirer. You know how that Freeper "logic"
works...."The guy was a hero, bet he and I have a lot in common and he'd say this stuff if he was as involved and knowledgable as me, I'll write this in his name - he'll thank me for it".

The guy was the first Hellcat Ace. http://www.danzoernig.com/illustrations/galleryDetails35.asp

Burt Rosen wrote about this urban legend - supposedly called and spoke with the guys wife:

http://www.nobodyaskedme.com/commentaries/2003/hillaryclintongoldstar.htm


Looks like Burt's got a new gig. Anyone ever hear of him? :shrug:

http://www.burtrosenshow.com/
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Rincewind Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:23 PM
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17. B.S.
If this is the one that has been going around for years, it's just right wing bullshit. There was a Gold Star Mothers visit to Washington, D.C., where they made appointments to visit some U.S. Senators. Senator Clinton was not one of the ones they made appointments with, after their appointments, they went to see some of the other Senators. When they went to Senator Clinton's office, they found she was out of town on a trip. I think they talked to some of the Senators staff, but she didn't, because she was away. Some have left that fact out to make it look like Senator Clinton was intentionally ignoring grieving mothers.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:23 PM
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18. That was debunked several years ago
The Gold Star Mothers' Web site had something on its front page debunking it.
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-27-07 09:44 PM
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22. THANK YOU, EVERYONE
I have responded to the list of recipients that it's a lie and directed them to the snopes.com link for more info.
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