Explicating the Cheney outburst,....

[Parisle]

--- With the media (and everyone else) homing in on Dick Cheney's declaration of "hogwash" in yesterday's interview with Wolf Blitzer, denying blunders and failures in Iraq,... Cheney's most revealing comment seems to have gone unnoticed. Indeed, when the VP notified Blitzer that he was "out of line," that also got the media juices flowing,.. almost as if this were one of those fake wrestling affairs.

--- And mostly overlooked in the exchange was this Cheney assertion regarding congressional (and widespread popular) disapproval of the Iraq escalation and saber-rattling towards Iran. He said, "They won't stop us."

--- Let me re-write that for emphasis. "THEY won't stop US." It's all in the pronouns, eh?

--- "They" would be the people's popularly-elected democratic representative legislative majority,... and certainly by extension, the two-thirds of the population who oppose this administration's war plans. And "Us" must refer to an administration policy-making faction which consists of no more than a dozen individuals,.... truthfully, only three or four. And of course, the unstated implication is that these few widely-opposed individuals control the military. Cheney may as well have been saying to the entire nation, "YOU won't stop us."

--- Folks, that is a line drawn in the sand, if you will. Cheney has just shown you the "soul" of this administration,.. and after all, what is a dictatorship, but a couple of guys who control the military? While this administration's prevailing tactic has been to try and fool or mislead congress and the electorate, pronouns tossed out in the heat of confrontation might be their most honest acknowledgement of who they are and what they really believe.

--- The Bush administration came into office with a secret PNAC agenda of co-opting the American military to achieve the geo-political and economic ambitions of a handful of extremist ideologues, supported by a few thousand corporatist heavy-hitters. Democracy and the American people be damned,.. along with justice, majority will, accountability and Constitutional law. Dick Cheney just told you so

[Bonobo]

1. APPLAUSE!!! K&R!!!

Perfectly well put! K&R

Here is the link. EVERYONE WATCH THIS!!!

There is for me, no moment perfectly emblatic, which reflects so sublimely, the existing relationship between the Fourth Estate (Mass Media) and the Executive Branch of the USA under this illegitimate, illegal, constitition-defying Junta.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x13947

[JDPriestly]

53. Wolf Blitzer groveled. He is no journalist.

He is Cheney's lapdog.

[Tellurian]

58. I didn't see that interview..Is there a video posted anywhere?

The only thing shown on MSM is the clip where Wolf asked about Cheney's pregnant daughter. Cheney abruptly took umbrage at the implication of the question and snapped back, "you're out of line."

[exlrrp]

64. Why was there no outrage, a la Clinton??

When Clinton snapped back at Chris Wallace, the RW media was all over him for his "rudeness and his "outburst." why none of this for Cheney?
The lapdog media, in their usual Wolf "I'll back off ANY question" Blitzer way, has once again shown its cowardice in the face of evil.

[Tellurian]

73. EVIL thrives in the element of surprise...

They don't want to rock the boat and get to many people talking and focusing on them..

Also the reason why repukes have been so quiet lately..

To me, their unusual silence, speaks like Thunder.

[CRH]

75. The quote above is in error. Here is a link to the transcript ...

It should read "It won't stop us". The transcript did not use the pronoun 'they'. It also will help with the context.

Below from page five of the transcript ...

CHENEY: Now, the critics have not suggested a policy. They haven't put anything in place. All they want to do, all they've recommended is to redeploy or to withdraw our forces. The fact is we can complete the task in Iraq. And we're going to do it. We've got Petraeus, General Petraeus taking over. It is a good strategy. It will work. But we have to have the stomach to finish the task.

BLITZER: What if the Senate passes a resolution saying, This is not good idea? Will that stop you?

CHENEY: It won't stop us. And it would be, I think, detrimental from the standpoint of the troops. As General Petraeus said yesterday -- he was asked by Joe Lieberman, among others, in his testimony about this notion that somehow the Senate could vote overwhelmingly for him, send him on his new assignment and then pass a resolution at the same time, say, "But we don't agree with the mission you've been given."

BLITZER: You're moving forward, no matter what the Congress does.

CHENEY: We are moving forward. We are moving forward. The Congress has control over the purse strings. They have the right, obviously, if they want, to cut off funding. But, in terms of this effort, the president's made his decision. We've consulted extensively with them. We'll continue to consult with the Congress. But the fact of the matter is, we need to get the job done. I think General Petraeus can do it. I think our troops can do it. And I think it's far too soon for the talking heads on television to conclude that it's impossible to do, it's not going to work, it can't possibly succeed.

The transcript can be downloaded at the following link,

http://www3.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/24/cheney/index.html

edited for: correcting my own quote in the first line using the contraction 'won't' in place of 'will not'

[Tellurian]

60. The link stops after 3sec of play..

can it be repaired?

[Virginia Dare]

2. I would say you nailed it...n/t

[mopinko]

3. we need to march on the pentagon.

we need to remind these generals that only congress can declare war, and as shakily as they have declared war on iraq, they sure the hell did not declare war on IRAN. an order to attack iran is as clearly illegal an order as they are ever likely to see. they don't have to mutiny, don't have to take over the government. just say- sir, no sir, i believe that is an illegal order. call me back when congress declares war.

[Tellurian]

59. Congress has to march on Bush..

repeating, you asked us for permission, we gave it to you. Now we're telling you to STOP!.

If he doesn't STOP, create a Constitutional Crisis by threatening removal. Not Impeachment, REMOVAL..
"YOU'RE FIRED." Front page NYT newspaper headline.

Bush has set himself up as the CEO of the USA Inc.. Fire him, Impeach Later!

At Least the People will know, Congress stands squarely behind the electorate.

[FredStembottom]

4. Today's top post!

Let's get busy, kids. Contact your reps!

[FightingIrish]

5. Cheney is so close to his "Mission Accomplished"

The reason the pentagon is planning an all out war against Iran rather than surgical strikes is because that will seal the deal. That will justify our permanent bases in Iraq and our permanent military presence on top of the mid-east oil. This has been Cheney's goal even before he put himself on the ticket in 2000. If we ever see what really happened inside his secret energy task force, we will know what has been keeping this ogre breathing. Once we are committed, he can step aside and watch with that sinister half-smile we have learned to despise. We can stop him and we must.

[Parisle]

14. Irish, this is addressed both to you and "mopinko"

--- I don't know about marching on the Pentagon,... but I certainly hope that congressional leaders have been having private contacts with the Pentagon over how this president's reckless or untoward executive orders will be handled. In the immediate interim, it would be most helpful if at least the House majority would register a vote halting the additional $6 billion for escalation,.. as well as launching the bill to rescind the original AUMF (or at least exclude Iran from the authorization). And without a doubt, congressional contact with the Pentagon ought to address the use of nuclear weapons,.....

[KoKo]

15. If anyone in the House and Senate saw that Cheney interview and

has an understanding of their role in the Constitution they should immediately do what you propose. Cheney laid it down. WE WILL DO WHATEVER WE WANT TO... He shoved his power in their face and he did it with a smirk.

That Bush/Cheney and the rest of them have been allowed to go this far shows what serious trouble our country is in with leaders who keep throwing marshmallows in the face of dictators when means of "removal" are already known. There's enough illegalities and treasonous dealings that Waxman and Conyers already have collected to remove them... Cheney has now pushed it in their face and said "You can't do anything about us because WE OWN IT ALL."

[Tellurian]

71. Cheney isn't showing his teeth YET!

The announcement Bush made during the SOTU address for the Volunteer Civilian Army (read mercenary's) needing to be hired was the clarion call (signal) to republican conservatives everywhere, the time is near for the takeover. Once that mercenary army, in another 30-45 days, is formed, with Congress allowing 20,000 to 30,0000 more of our National Guard troops to go to Iraq, we are totally fucked.

Democrats are once again, underestimating the resolve and the lethal motives of the VRW Neocons. The VRW will not only exert the necessary control to maintain power but are preparing to subjugate the American people permanently in the process. This has been their plan, their only Plan all along. You've heard of the Haves and the Have Nots?

Stay off the anti-Hillary boards and pay attention. Don't be distracted by the so-called noble cynics and their shrouded enclave of lemon sucking ideologues. Their writings of utter non-productive nonsense are no more than displaced anger because their Candidate made a wise choice to stand down from running. The threat to our livelihoods and well being is real and is at stake. The Neocons are going to blindside us again..Pay attention!!

You are aware, the rePukes passed a bill recently signed by Bush giving himself the power over the National Guard Troops within each individual state. This newly passed bill legislatively nullifies the Constitutionally endowed power of the Governors of each state. If you know your history, the Founding Fathers feared the federal government would someday overtake the sovereign rights of each state. The FF created a proviso in the Constitution protecting the use of a state's militia/National Guard exclusively for the direction and control of each states Governor. Bush just over rode that Constitutional guarantee with this bill, deleting it, giving that authority solely to the Federal Government.

You have to ask yourself, what could be the reason why Bush is doing this ? There can be only ONE logical conclusion.

He is doing this in preparation to thwart the bursting dam of unrest by the country's citizens against the War in Iraq. Now that the perversions and Lying of the Bush Administration's politics and Logistic Greed has been truly revealed and understood by 85% of the country.

The only reason for Bush wresting power from Gubernatorial authority is, He and Cheney are in fear of loosing control and failing to realize the PNAC vision they have been planning for... for so long. They will not hesitate to imprison you, me, Congress, anyone that represents a threat to their envisioned permanent seat of power as the heads of our government which is almost within their grasp. This has been the primary reason Bush had stayed the course in Iraq, not only for the OIL but for permanent, supreme control of this country and it's people.

This has been a huge undertaking and an unprecedented but necessary step in bringing the PNAC view to fruition and our new reality. These major barrier breaking steps mandated by the PNAC manifesto, are not something new but something that has been planned for over 20 yrs. Believe me, they are prepared to sacrifice our way of life for THEIR vision of OUR future. Nuanced distractions like semantic arguments on message boards viewed by tens of thousands of citizens and the Neoconic ability to off put media attention focusing on the 'whys' of necessitating Constitutional deletions has been an effective distracting mechanism. The Neocons agenda slowly creeps in step by step accomplishing their goals with little resistance from citizens because WE ARE NOT FOCUSED ON THEM.

If we don't make a concerted effort soon to force Congress to Act to STOP THIS WAR and BRING THE TROOPS HOME, we are going to loose our freedom and identity as a Nation. This is the only way to STOP the PNAC vision from going forward and STOP them dead in their tracks. If our troops come home they will be here protecting home and hearth from any government military takeover. They are the only hope we have, our own families, ensuring the NEOCONS and their PNAC PLAN are fucked thwarting their envisioned takeover...and the primary reason behind Bush's message of staying the course and why he doesn't want to bring the troops home.

OUR National Guard Troops away from home, leave us vulnerable to the mercenary takeover planned in the PNAC Manifesto for control of power.

All the regret and lamenting in the world will not change the circumstance we are about to find ourselves in.

A circumstance we could have changed had we been vigilant and focused on the PRESENT!

We go about daily unAware of the SIGNS right under our noses and what they mean, pointing like huge RED arrows to the dread we are going to find ourselves facing in the near future....

IF we do not force our strongest candidates, O BAMA, HILLARY, EDWARDS and KERRY in the Senate,
to speak OUT NOW, LOUDLY AND PLAINLY! BRING OUR TROOPS HOME!...before it's TOO LATE...


We Are Lost...

[Parisle]

74. I hear ya, Tellurian,.....

--- And I share many of your fears and concerns about the modern-day nazi junta in the White House. I, too, worry that they will stop at nothing, and that we are soon to be "blindsided" by some egregious executive decree. In any event, I don't see them giving up after they've come this far,... or if they could be facing criminal prosecution.

--- I recently wrote the draft of what I call a "prior dissent" bill for the Vermont State Legislature. It can be read at www.vermontrepublic.org. The general idea of a "prior dissent" resolution is that a given state's legislature is signalling that dangerous, Constitutionally-threatening or otherwise untoward Executive Decrees by the president (such as Martial Law, etc) would be void and disregarded within their state boundaries, unless the state legislature concurred with the decree. The state would be the final arbiter of a checklist of "triggers" which suspended all or any part of the Constitution. The justification for this is given. Unfortunately, the bill did not pass.

--- However, I still feel that if only as many as three states were to adopt resolutions such as this,... putting Bush on notice that his power-grab meant nothing inside their state boundaries,....just three states,.... and the march to dictatorship would be halted. They can't send tanks into three different states and get away with it, eh? And I will always believe that the key to saving the Constitution lies with the individual states, and definitely NOT with the national party political industry. Tell me what you think.....

[AtomicKitten]

77. Yahtzee!!!!!!!!! K&R for your post.

Good gawd, you surely aren't distracted by the vengeful spite turned toward HRC on the message boards. The epithet of "lock-step" was thrown out today re: Dems with complete ignorance of the real threat of an impending genuine fascist goose-step.

This is precisely the conundrum presented to Gov Blanco during Katrina, and the blame for the delay laid at her doorstep. Surrender Kathleen! Step aside, abdicate your authority, and acquiesce to the federal government assuming imperial control of Louisiana!

Be afraid, be very afraid.

[mnhtnbb]

6. The arrogance of these treasonous a$$holes (Bush/Cheney) is astonishing

[Rosa Luxemburg]

10. they are so entrenched

it will be hard to get them out by the roots

[Doctor_J]

19. that's why impeachment is imperative

extremely punative measures are crucial.

[sofa king]

62. There is a way.

I've heard stories about the Department of the Interior in the 1970s. Nixon had done everything he could to staff the place with shady Republican money types, but once he went out on his ear, most of them ran away for good.

The reason why, I was told, was because holdovers from previous administrations had been keeping a detailed dossier on all of the wrongdoings of the Nixon folks. And they were shown the dossier on their way out.

Most of them refused to return even when the second-worst Secretary of the Interior ever, James Watt, was put in charge. Too scared.

Hopefully, we can do the same thing this time.

[exlrrp]

63. Second Worst??

Who was worse than James Watt??

[sofa king]

79. Gale Norton is the worst.

She learned everything she knew about subduing the earth from Watt, but used her years of expertise combating the EPA to remove virtually all hindrances from the rape and exploitation of our public lands. For example, thanks to Gale Norton, golf course water hazards comprise a significant proportion of our nation's remaining "wetlands."

She also presided over the criminalization of the Department of the Interior, which is so corrupt at this point that in many cases it's no longer capable of writing its own regulations; rather, it relies on Republican-supporting lobbying firms and special interest groups to write its policy. After Jack Abramoff, the Department of the Interior has seen fit to keep the leadership positions within the Office of Insular Affairs (which oversees the Marianas Islands) and the Bureau of Indian Affairs vacant, preferring instead to have those offices run by non-Senate approved party hacks.

If you want to get something done in Indian Country today (or more accurately, if you want to do something to the Indians today), you pay a Republican lobbyist to talk to Dick Cheney or Karl Rove, who in turn sends a memo down to an Associate Deputy Secretary named Jim Cason telling him how to screw over the Indians.

The reason why Cason is in charge of Indian Affairs is because he was a prominent fundraiser for the Bush campaign. The reason why Cason is not officially in charge of Indian Affairs is because for the past thirty years the Senate has required that the Assistant Secretary for Indian Affairs be an actual American Indian or other Native American, because non-Indians have historically been more likely to act criminally in that capacity.

Gale Norton was the overall architect of this ridiculous state of affairs. We'll never recover what we've already lost under her leadership, and what we manage to retain will be a pale shadow of the natural resources the America of the 20th Century once stewarded. She's the worst Secretary of the Interior, who served under the worst President this nation has ever seen.

[pberq]

7. Yes! - we need to keep PNAC front and center

There is no other explanation for what is going on.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

8. I have often wondered who the 'us' and the 'we' were? 'they' won't stop 'us'

This is a great post. It really hits the nail right there. "they' will be stopped, the French will see to that!

[neweurope]

9. Recommended n/t

-------------------------

Remember Fallujah/b]

Bush to The Hague!

[The Backlash Cometh]

11. Do you all realize what danger we're in?

This man gets summoned to Saudi Arabia by the royals, and then shows up on US national news to tell us that nothing will stop a small cadre in the White House from proceeding with their war plans. AND, there's a trial going on that is revealing that he had more to taking us to war, than most of us knew.

These are scary times, that corporate oil tycoons can control world affairs, regardless of what the rest of the world has to say about it.

[colorado_ufo]

31. Agree with you.

The spectre of what could happen if these people are confronted with impeachment together, and corned wtih no one to shift the blame to, is truly chilling, especially since the suspension of habeas corpus. I could see a declaration of martial law, then a possible civil war between generals who support Bush/Cheney and those who oppose them.

[Buzz Clik]

12. That bastard Cheney drew the line in the sand before he ever took office

His meetings with energy producers to set energy policy was a clear, "F*ck you!" from Cheney, and he said it again, complete with hand gestures, when the GSA wanted documentation of those meetings that Cheney refused to produce.

You want to toss about IMPEACHMENT? Start with this sonofabitch and start today.

[volstork]

13. Recommend!

:kick:

[Parisle]

16. Thank you, all

--- That's a pretty good number of rec's for a spur-of-the-moment idea. To tell you the truth, I woke up this morning with Cheney's words going 'round in my head. I'm an English Lit professor, journalist and former ad-agency writer,.. so I tend to notice words very closely. We already know what we can expect to hear from the chief neocon,.. so we need to look for the unexpected, eh?

--- Incidentally, my favorite detective story denouement is contained in the Sherlock Holmes story about the dog that didn't bark. (His master was the criminal, right?) Overlay that little piece of inductive reasoning with the removal from the table of impeachment considerations. Makes you think, eh?

[Auntie Bush]

32. Yes, that made me think!

But, would you mind giving my thinker a little boost in the right direction? I wouldn't want to veer off the right path and over a cliff.

[In Truth We Trust]

17. Seems like a gauntlet to me. Fuck him!

[fuzzyball]

18. And the sad truth is Bush/Cheney will get their way because the

elected congress does not have the balls to stop them.

[catgirl]

20. When he says "they"

he now has to include some republicans too, doesn't he?
The enemy army grows bigger Dick!

[Pacifist Patriot]

26. The GOP was never part of the "US"

A political party is a means to an end. PNAC using party politics. We're at a particularly crucial juncture when the party no longer supports the cabal, but the cabal no longer perceives the need for their support.

[Art_from_Ark]

44. He doesn't care

They're little more than useful fools to him

[donkeyotay]

21. K&R. thanks for being the media, Parisle. nt

[StrictlyRockers]

22. That dude is SO Darth Vader! We hve to stop "them".

[Just-plain-Kathy]

23. We should go on a PNAC attack...

We should take matters into our own hands and start writing Letters to the Editors explaining PNAC.

Anytime one of these news shows ask for our opinions we should bring up PNAC.

Once PNAC is common knowledge, Americans will start to fight to take back our country.

[PreacherCasey]

29. PNAC Manifesto here:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

[Just-plain-Kathy]

39. Thank you!!!

I’m looking forward to actually reading Rebuilding America’s Defense...I feel like you gave me a gift. Thanks again!!

[Kurovski]

24. "THEY won't stop US." Impeachment WILL gum-up the war-works.

Just the beginnings of impeachment alone will begin the process of casting them down. Oust Bush AND Cheney.

Nixon's own party forced got him to step down once the ball got rolling.

[civildisoBDence]

25. Translation: "People of America, go fuck yourselves."

It sounds like the White House is entering a bunker mentality...and we all know what happened in that Bunker in Berlin. (Wishful thinking.)

Newsprism

[Tellurian]

81. Exactly the same thing he said to Sen. Leahy..

in the halls of the Senate several years ago.

[AbbyR]

27. K&R

But is anyone in Washington listening? I wish I could believe someone NOT on DU hears this sort of thing. Sometimes I feel as if we are all whistling in the wind.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

28. Excellent post.

Posts like this make impeachment more explicable and thus more likely.

I advocate public hearings as the way to go rather than attempting impeachment right off the bat. However, the more people like you make the Bush regime's "high crimes" explainable and more clearly obvious, the more you convince wavering Republicans and especially wavering Republican Senators (who are the ones to really decide on this issue) that Bush needs to be indicted and convicted or to resign to avoid that fate.

[Duncan Grant]

30. Is this a proxy war, an asinine "business plan", or both?

"Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity..."

"The Second Coming" - Yeats

[Miss Chybil]

33. K & R. Let's see what "they" do about it. nt

[Seattleman]

34. Exactly what I was going to write!

[ladywnch]

35. clearly I missed this....when did it happen and does anyone

have a link for video, audio or transcript?

[Bonobo]

36. I posted the link in the very first reply. Please look above.

[Th1onein]

54. Is that the wrong link?

In that clip, they were talking about Cheney's daughter and her pregnancy, not Iran.

[Bonobo]

80. Yeah, sorry... :(

[procopia]

66. This is the link

you want about Iran: http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/24/cheney-hogwash/

[LaBanty]

37. Ole Snaggle Tooth

Is just pissed off after THEY did their bait-and-switch war, that America woke up and voted for a sweeping regime change. Unfortunately, BuchCo has raked in billions profiting from their big lie. THEY are sneering all the way to the bank.

If that bastard thinks this is an outrage, wait until every last one of those pricks is out of a job in 2008.

[Name removed]

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[Clintonista2]

40. Oh I see how this works

Republicans hunt Gays for sport and then expect "respect" when they are forced to deal with the issue in their own lives. Had his daughter not been a lesbian, you can be damn sure how he would feel about the issue.

If his kind is going to hunt GLBT for sport, his kind will have to face the consequences.

[Name removed]

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[Clintonista2]

45. How was he disrespectul?

He quoted Focus on the family, and then asked if Cheney would like to respond. Crawl back to your hole freeper.

[Name removed]

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[Bonobo]

50. It's not about his gay daughter... It's about the fact that his admin

supports all these attacks on gays and denies equal rights to gays. So he needs to be called on it.

THAT is what it is about. Either homosexuals marrying and having children is as EVIL and IMMORAL as his side of the fence claims, or it isn't.

ALL POLITICS ARE PERSONAL.

[Clintonista2]

70. But you just said.. it wasnt WHAT wolf asked, it was HOW he asked it...

That was disrespectful. So why are you changing your story now?

[TankLV]

82. as a gay man, YOU insult me by your mypic and hypocritical attitude...

It's aparently OK for the repukes to trot out their GAY daughter when it suits them, and then to stuff her back into her closet when they return to their ACTIVE GBLT agenda...

NOT "OK" in my book...

[MadAsHellNewYorker]

51. Wow, what are you talking about?

All Blitzer did was point out that Cheney's own constituents don't think his daughter is entitled to equal rights or consideration under the law and asked his opinion on it. Instead of standing up for his daughter Cheney slinked away...Blitzer was respectful but Cheney sure as hell wasn't. All Cheney had to do was stand up for his daughter and its quite telling that he didn't.

[Lasher]

56. And how is it that Cheney deserves respect?

This epitome of evil aggressively lied us into a war that is destroying us, and he's supposed to get respect? I think not.

Look, Cheney's daughter has chosen to adopt a public posture. Combine that with the glaring hypocrisy and you're fair game.

[MadAsHellNewYorker]

78. Exacty. n/t

[catgirl]

65. He Was Making A Big Point In Asking About His Daughter

He was pointing out that Cheney and co are bigots...
anti equal marriage, anti abortion, and so on. Yet
Cheney's own daughter is gay and having a baby
out of wedlock. Something like this would be shameful
and scandulous. It reeks of everything they stand against.
It was a completely appropriate question and Cheney
couldn't answer it truthfully, so the cowardly response
was probably expected. He certainly did squirm though,
didn't he?

[CoffeeCat]

42. When is the last time that Dick did an interview...

...on CNN?

I don't even remember.

You are absolutely correct--and you said it so eloquently.

Dick Cheney was reminding the entire country that there is not a damn thing we
can do. They are steamrolling ahead with their neocon, murdering agenda. They
don't care what we think. They don't bat an eyelash about what we think. We
are inconsequential. Dick was reminding us all of those things--putting us in
our place, if you will.

Bush's polls are dropped more recently. Their failed policies lost them the 04
elections. Support for the war is dropping. ...Dick just had to let us know
that none of that is relevant--and that they will do as they damn well please.

These thugs are pathetic freaks.

[Raster]

43. the line in the sand was drawn by Senator Webb. I don't believe the American Military

has ever mutinied against a sitting Commander and Chief. bush* is coming perilously close. When Senator Webb said the majority of the American Military are not in agreement with bush*, he spoke knowing the military mind. Contrast to Clinton, who may not have been well liked by American Military, he was at least respected. bush* has lost the respect and loyalty of the majority of the Military.

[Senator]

46. Only Impeachment ... Can Slap That Mouth Shut

Impeachment IS our positive agenda.

It is our ONLY moral, patriotic option.

Only Impeachment...

--

[Anita Garcia]

48. You are correct!

And I predict that in two days the media will be talking about this.
Thanks for the point...taken!

[Beetwasher]

49. Yes, How Very Machiavellian of Him

They've been telling us all along pretty much exactly what they wanted to do. It's all out there in the open for anyone to see.

[Vidar]

52. Gratefully recommended.

[Pooka Fey]

55. I know what will stop them - and it's probably the only thing...

A general strike. Shut this country down: no trains, buses, no service, no stores, nothing but the streets full of protesters. Only then will the * junta know that the citizens have some power too. Too bad we Americans won't go for it - we've been too brainwashed against unions.

[burythehatchet]

57. Damn

Your post just hit me in the head like a sledgehammer.

[Quakerfriend]

61. Great post! I would like to see the media start to talk about

the MONEY TRAIL!

When Dick Durbin spoke about Cheney being delusional that got plenty of press. But, Why don't they discuss the TRUTH about this whole war, and the incredible amount of money that is being made??- When Cheney says, 'Our business in almost completed'-

Please all of you in Congress, CALL HIM ON THE $$$$ Haliburton and others have stockpiled!!

[catgirl]

67. Exactly! Watch "Iraq For Sale"

It's stomache turning. This war was all about money...
a few getting really rich regardless of the death and
destruction caused by their greed.

[dsharp88]

68. Wuss Blitzer CRUMBLED before his lord and master

[bonito]

69. What concerns me also

Is that there are many hi ranking officials with dual citizenship that make policy regarding homeland security and middle east policy I beleive is dangerous for the security of the United States.

[Stargazer09]

72. Very nice! K & R n/t

[DuaneBidoux]

76. Personally I think he may have a brain tumor.