Clinton campaign trying to squeeze Obama out of the money

[bigdarryl]

This was just said by Howard Fineman on Hardball.these Clinton people are fucked up.

[k_jerome]

1. LMAO. nt.

[PresidentObama]

4. This is why no one takes you serious.

Pointless posts with little substance full of one or two words like "lol" and "LMAO"

This isn't AOL Instant Messenger, and I'm not a 15-year-old. Bring something to the table.

As far as this thread, I'm not all that surprised. I respect Hillary, but I question her choice in campaign team. AKA the henchmen.

[k_jerome]

7. yeah, the OP was full of substance. LOL.nt.

[k_jerome]

9. see whats said below by who you see as an enlightened OP..post #5. nt.

[k_jerome]

13. see post #11 too. but you don't resond to these enlightened posts...

just me.

[PresidentObama]

19. See larissa's post.

Defend that, please!

[k_jerome]

20. defend her post? nt.

[PresidentObama]

21. I have a hard time supporting someone whom....

Takes big money from FOX, and Murdoch!

[k_jerome]

23. please provide links to how much money Murdoch has donated to various Dem candidates....

[zulchzulu]

52. Read it and weep...

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/61faabde-deb8-11da-acee-0000779e2340.html

"May 8 2006 21:01 | Last updated: May 8 2006 21:01

Rupert Murdoch, the conservative media mogul whose New York Post tabloid savaged Hillary Clinton’s initial aspirations to become a US senator for New York, has agreed to host a political fundraiser for her re-election campaign.

The decision underlines an incongruous thawing of relations between Mr Murdoch and Mrs Clinton, who in 1998 coined the phrase “vast rightwing conspiracy” to denounce critics of her husband, such as Fox News, the conservative cable channel owned by Mr Murdoch’s News Corporation.

Mr Murdoch will host the fundraiser, due to be held by July, on behalf of News Corp."

[k_jerome]

25. John Kerry took donations from Murdoch. LMAO. nt.

[PresidentObama]

27. If he has, thats disappointing.

But Kerry isn't a candidate for President, Hillary is!

I don't know how many fundraisers Murdoch has held for Kerry, but I'm sure Rupert likes Hillary a lot more then he does Kerry.

[k_jerome]

28. uh huh. lol. nt.

[blm]

46. Murdoch donated to Gore and Kerry just so he can point to it and excuse his network's

hundreds of millions of dollars worth of airtime used against them.

You think 2000 from Murdoch meant anything else?

[rinsd]

50. Well that just blew up in your face. (nt)

[rinsd]

48. Ummm not a day goes by that BD doesn't post something he saw on TV

And surprise surprise it is always a negative for Clinton and is usually wrong.

[zulchzulu]

47. That's it for me...

[Xipe Totec]

2. That's the way the game is played

There is only one winner, and everybody is playing to win.

No animosity, but also no quarter given.

[mzmolly]

36. Indeed it is.

And, this is only the beginning.

[illinoisprogressive]

3. I saw that. Hillary is so childish she is gunning for him personally.

Her behavior is incredible. She sees him as the enemy. She spend her vacation plotting on convincing the blacks that Obama isn't really black.
She says he will have to fight for every black vote.
The idiot is obsessed

[bigdarryl]

5. hate to say it it looks like Dick(suck toe) Morris is right about her being nasty and vicious

[Vexatious Ape]

6. I think the top two most politically ambitious people in

Washington are the dreaded John McCain and Hillary. They will do anything to get to the top. Anyone else eyeballing the White House needs to wear a bulletproof vest.

[Jackpine Radical]

10. ...not to mention feeding a little of any food to the dog

before they eat it, avoiding any beverage that smells like almonds, staying out of small planes, & being careful when they cross the street.

[Vexatious Ape]

29. Yes, they need to be as careful as a Russian journalist.

[davidwparker]

8. Was there any evidence of this? I'm not a Hillary fan, but open to those

who are running -- and some who haven't announced.

She's not Lady Macbeth with the "damned spots."

[Jackpine Radical]

11. No, that was Monica & the spots were on a blue dress.

[davidwparker]

16. LOL

[Radical Activist]

12. Obama got Bill Daley.

He'll have money. Lots of it.

[Imagevision]

31. Obama also has OPRAH WINFREY & GEORGE SORROS supporting him

not too shabby...

[illinoisprogressive]

14. Check Raw Story for an article. I've see one somewhere. It is true..

I also saw it on that new blog, politico.
Seems that hillary and mccain share alot. despised by thier own party and totally obsessed with the white house that they sell thier souls for it.

[rinsd]

54. BS

Hillary isn't despised by her own party.

A majority of DUers don't like her and they are not representative of Democrats at large.

[snowbear]

15. Billionaires and their favorite candidates....

Oprah Winfrey --------> Senator Barack Obama
Richard Branson ------> Governor Bill Richardson
George Soros ---------> General Clark
Rupert Murdoch -------> Hillary Clinton


... Rupert Murdoch!?!?

Who else has a billionare supporting them?

[illinoisprogressive]

17. Soros just endorsed Obama. Gave him $$$ this weekend.

and one thing Morris is right about, and he is not right much and is a sleaze, but, he's right about Hillary
I think that's why he's turned on Clintons so vehemently. I think it was because of Hillary

[snowbear]

22. Awesome! He gave Gen. Clark $75K.. but that was 6 months ago..

.. with Soros and Winfrey behind Barack, we're talking about some serious financial support!!

[OHdem10]

18. I also watched as H. Fineman

explained the Clintons are using George Bush's plan
when he first ran. He, according to Fineman, not only
demanded large(very large contributions for himsel) but
intstructed Republican Donors they were not to contribute
to the other Candidates. He ended up with gazillions of
dollars and other candidates started dropping like flies.

Fineman says Hillary is using this same strategy with
Democratic Donors. Where Fineman got his info I do not
know, but he says Obama is feeling it.

[blm]

24. I agree. Said the same last week - she's running like Bush did in 1999 and

she has her hitmen out in the media trashing everyone else, just like Tonya Harding had her thugs trying to take out her competition.

Hillary wants everything made EASY for her and doesn't want to debate anyone she knows she can't debate. That is why I think both Richardson and Vilsack are in place - they are the stooges who will make it look legitimate - probably promised to be put on the short list.

[capi888]

32. Fineman on HardBall said this tonight

I was shocked, shocked..how can this be!!

[Windy]

26. We've had enough of the clintons and the bushes

Hillary underestimates the Oprah factor though. That is a HUGE plus for him. And the more it gets out that Hillary is as ruthless as Bush, the less chance she has of winning.

Edwards is ahead in Iowa and Edwards and Obama are tied in New Hampshire in the polls.

I don't really care what the national polls say. They were dead wrong before the midterms! The general consensus on the blogs is no to Hillary and the only way a lot of people will vote for her is if she is the nominee and they will do it while holding their nose...


We don't need ruthless. We need someone who is in it for what's right and not for himself or herself. We've had enough of that.

[mzmolly]

35. I'd take the Clinton era in a heartbeat, but I am certain most people feel as you do.

Tired of the monopoly on the WH by two political families.

[AspenRose]

41. Amen to that.

eom

[Imagevision]

30. Clinton's aren't fucked up, With Obama they understand the threat, especially Bill

[DianaForRussFeingold]

33. ?Investigatory files on the Clinton years are currently fully under the control the Bush adm..

Democrats are walking into a huge trap.


THE REAL DIVIDE ON HILLARY CLINTON

Sam Smith

" There is a real divide on Hillary Clinton. It is between reality and myth and it is a divide that has existed ever since her husband ran for the presidency. But, as with her husband, the media has done a superb job of protecting its audience from reality.

This mythology will flourish until after the Democratic convention. If HRC wins the nomination, the game will dramatically change. The Republicans would be delighted to have Clinton as the candidate and don't want to spoil their chances by beating up on her now.

It is hard to get Democrats to focus on this problem, but consider this: The Justice Department's and other investigatory files on the Clinton years are currently fully under the control the Bush administration and will be until Inauguration Day. :wow:

Bluntly put, the Democrats are walking into a huge trap.

Sadly, it is not that hard to see. In the months before her husband's nomination I reported on more than a score of institutions and individuals whose relationship with Bill Clinton raised serious questions. The major media nearly totally ignored this publicly available information. Yet, in the end, almost all these individuals and institutions became a major part of what became known as the Clinton scandals... http://prorev.com/hillary.htm

[mzmolly]

34. Fox just reported that Obama went to terrorist training school.

I remain open minded on this.

[fuzzyball]

40. Whaaaaaat? What's next, he is a member of Al Qaeda?

[mzmolly]

42. Well, first his face was shown while they discussed a rapist, then he went to

terrorist training school. Not sure what's next? ;)

[NobleCynic]

37. That's not fucked up

That's to be expected. She's running for president. You don't pull punches when, quite literally, the stakes are the world. I don't like Hillary, I'm probably voting for Edwards or Gore (Should he join) in my caucus. But really now, I expect anyone running for president to be a little Machiavellian. I'd be disappointed if that wasn't the case.

[JeremyWestenn]

38. They are not fucked up.

It's politics, welcome to Washington.

Dur.

[MonkeyFunk]

39. Umm...

that's politics. Nothing fucked up about it.

Obama would squeeze the money away from Clinton if he could, too.

[TeamJordan23]

43. Only 51% can form an opinion of Obama....isn't this big UPSIDE?

According to the latest Time Poll, Hillary leads Obama by 19 points. According to the poll, 51% can form an opinion of Obama compared to 94% for Hillary. And Hillary also had a lot higher unfavorably rating.

Do others, like me, think this is an upside for Obama. Primaries are not until a year out. I think Obama is in a good position right now and if he runs an effective campaign, I think he has major upside. More people will fall to Obama once they really start knowing about him.

What do u guys think?

[zulchzulu]

49. Welcome to DU!

I agree. A year out from the primaries and where polls are more about name recognition than anything else... at this stage in the 2004 election, Lieberman and Gephardt were neck-and-neck in the polls.

[wyldwolf]

44. So what you are saying is you were not aware of how political campaigns operate

[SaveElmer]

45. What the hell are you talking about?

You act like Hillary should just share the money she raises with Obama...

What a stupid criticism...this is a PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN...hence a contest...therefore each candidate tries to DO BETTER than the other...this includes FUND RAISING...

Next you will be complaining Hillary is taking votes away from Obama too...

[PresidentObama]

53. Did you miss the point?

Obviously so...

How many candidates does Hillary's henchmen have to push down the stairs before you stop defending her?

Carville, Begala, McAuliffe, and Team Hillary can go straight to hell. I like Hillary, but her teams actions make me wonder about her.

[SaveElmer]

55. What are you talking about...

Do you have any kind of link to show Hillary's "Henchmen" are pushing candidates down the stairs...you keep saying that without providing any kind of evidence...

[rinsd]

51. Its called running to win.

And I love how with baited breath DUers dutifully report MSM accusations provided they fulfill the key requirement of being anti-Clinton.

[SaveElmer]

57. Doesn't even have to be MSM...

Any source will do...

[theboss]

56. You mean, Hillary is trying to beat him for the nomination?!?!?!?!

What a scandal!