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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:24 AM
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So CBS has Bush down to 28% - I simply cannot believe I lived to see
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 09:25 AM by leftyladyfrommo
this happening. I remember how I felt when that idiot had like a 78% rating and I was beating my head against the wall. I just couldn't believe that so many Americans could be so blind and just plain stupid.

But the real problem with that sort of thing is that when the masses who loved him so much turned, they turned with a vengeance.

Drudge this morning has huge Red headlines that Bush is down to 28%. Never thought it would happen.

And I can't tell you happy I am to see this happen. I lived thru Nixon. I really hated to see this country just sink into that kind of darkness and fear again. These last 6 years have been awful.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:27 AM
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1. But that 28% means nothing as long as Bush governs as if he's 78%
The 2004 election was his "accountability moment" after all. And he wasn't held to it.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:27 AM
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2. I'd feel better if it was down to 8%!
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:29 AM
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3. LOL - After tonite that may happen!
Everyone and their dog is just sitting out there ready to tear his speech to pieces. I really wouldn't want to be in his shoes.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:30 AM
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Get ready to feel better.
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:30 AM
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4. That 28% is "some of the people all of the time"
Or as Colbert characterized it "backwash".
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:35 AM
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20. The ones that I refer to as the willfully ignorant. They act as though
questioning Bush somehow impugns their character also. To show disapproval of him now would mean that they would have to admit that he is a total failure and that they were wrong to support him so completely throughout the debacle he has made of the Presidency. It is doubtful, IMO, that his approval rating could drop much further, but, hey, I've been wrong about this before.
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:39 AM
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21. "Suckers" is also appropriate
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:31 AM
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5. Bush decided to spend his vaunted "capital" and this is the result
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 09:32 AM by HereSince1628
Just like always Bush has made an awful investment. It's a shame it's just his poll numbers are at record lows.

Now he's back to "Arbusto the Busted." He's probably looking for a Latin American baseball team to buy on credit.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:32 AM
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6. this becomes self-fullfilling, too.
no longer can the Rass-musens or AOHell or AP make numbers up, or skew the polls by culling dems and indies. If they tried to show an increase in support, they'd lose whatever shred of credibility they still hold on to.

Another point, as more and more people recognize just how badly served the nation and the world have been, more are willing to express themselves. People were intimidated about criticizing a president when terra and foreign threats seemed to be real, pressing and urgent. No longer.
This is akin to atheists and agnostics finally standing up and demanding to be heard against that wave of fundie pols and religious leaders who have been shoving their crap down our throat for the past 6 years.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:34 AM
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7. Most polls are weighted to ASSume that independents
and a small percentage of Dems vote Repug, but that no independents or Repugs vote Democratic.

I think we can safely subtract about 4% from that number, and the true number may be even lower.

Yes, people hate to be bullshitted, especially when it's cost them something. Stupid's bullshit has cost thousands and thousands of lives here and around the world, our future because of his debt, our democracy because of his creation of the most powerful class of super rich this country has ever seen and his tossing aside the constitution and the rule of law, and much of our freedom.

It will take generations to undo the harm this one man has done to us, if we can undo it at all. Remember, every republic in history has succumbed to the same thing, the growing power of a small cabal of very rich men whose power eventually eclipsed that of the people.

People are starting to realize at least part of what he has done. If he tries to hang onto the office until the bitter end, I can see rage exploding into violence in this country.

I sincerely hope that doesn't happen. I hope we are able to reestablish the rule of law and put this man and his cabal into prison, demonstrating to the world that they were an aberration, not business as usual. I sincerely hope we can curb the power of the super rich, and I hope it can all be done peacefully, according to law.

However, the chances of a peaceful turnaround grow slimmer every day.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:42 AM
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8. No mention of it on Fox News. Drudge has it in red by leads with Oscar information
There isn't even any mention of it on the Fox politics paid but they do have a story about Sandy Berger.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:51 AM
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9. I think Fox's latest poll has him at 37 or something.
They live in an alternative universe over there.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:11 AM
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10. I'm curious to see if the number drops much below 28%
John Dean's interview:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Video_50_year_study_says_conservatives_0711.html
>>
DEAN: The lead researcher in this field told me, he said, "I look at the numbers of the United States and I see about 23% of the population who are pure right-wing authoritarian followers." They're not going to change. They're going to march over the cliff. The best thing to deal with them -- and they're growing, and they have a tremendous influence on Republican politics -- The best defense is understanding them, to realize what they are doing, how they're doing it and how they operate. Then it can be kept in perspective and they can be seen for what they are.
>>
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:14 AM
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11. Yes, but they may not stick with Bush. They may transfer their
allegiance to some other, better super right winger. Like Brownback, maybe. I think Brownback is a legitimate conservative, anti-abortion, Evangelical.

I could see them abandoning Bush. But there would have to be someone else that fits their bill first.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:30 AM
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15. But Brownback won't be in the polls that ask about approval ratings
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 10:31 AM by antigop
The poll will simply ask for Bush's approval rating. Do you approve of the job Bush is doing?


Let's see what happens to Bush's approval ratings from here on out.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:31 AM
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18. Yes, it will be fun. n/t
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KKKarl is an idiot Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:20 AM
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12. How low can you go?
Aren't these numbers very close to what Nixon had before he had to resign or faced being fired.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:29 AM
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14. Very close. I think Nixon was at 27. n/t
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:23 AM
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13. you said it very well for me!
I'm so damned happy.... Chimp has matched his Father's lowest (Gallup- 28%), and since his hatred of his father and competrition with him is what his presidency has been about, this is POETIC JUSTICE. I'm afraid it's the only justice he'll ever get.

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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:31 AM
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17. I don't understand what the deal is about his father - I don't remember
that he was very popular at all. He was seen as being very weak. At least that is what I remember about that time.

Now people seem to remember him differently.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:00 AM
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23. He was very popular after the first Iraq War -- then plummeted.
He was tone deaf on the economy, mainly.

Luckily, his plummet coincided with the '92 election.
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architect359 Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:31 AM
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16. After reading that article...
...I wish that we had a system like parliament where we are able to hold special elections. I mean 28 percent is something like a no confidence vote. How much more lower do we need for Congress to begin impeachment proceedings, essentially that "no confidence" vote? Why do conservatives still hew to this administration and its policies? Party loyalty? Ignorance? I just don't get it. With all that we know about this administration's policy that's undermining the country's core principals and the relationship to the rest of the world... I mean, I just don't get it.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:33 AM
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19. I don't think they would ever impeach - but if it gets bad enough
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 11:07 AM by leftyladyfrommo
they may do what they did to Nixon - force him to resigh.

But I just don't see that happeneing this time around. I think Congress will simply take control and lead things for the last two years.
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architect359 Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:42 AM
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22. I hope so. n/t
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