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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 08:46 AM
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Boy, Right Wing is really going after Obama.
I guess that makes sense. He is probably the furthest Left of the candidates. And probably the biggest risk to the right.

But to publish that he went to a Madrassa in Indonesia when he was 6. And then I saw where CNN is reporting this morning that he did live in Indonesia but that the school he attended was just a normal public school.

And all the slip ups on FOX mixing his name up with Osama.

Too wierd for words. The Right is going after him is a huge way. Kind of makes me want to get out there and support him.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 08:47 AM
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1. That's because if Obama wins the nomination, he has a solid chance
of becoming our next President. Also makes you wonder why the right wing is currently "in love" with HRC? ;)
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 08:52 AM
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3. Yea, but all of the Democratic Runners are really impressive and
all of them would have a great chance of winning. Obama is probably still the one with the biggest question marks out there. Smart and fast and very charismatic. But shy on the political experience (maybe a good thing.)

I don't think the Right Wing loves Hillary at all. Here in the Midwest - the conservatives really hate Hillary. Because she is a woman and because they absolutely hate Bill Clinton and always will.

Hillary will have a really hard time in this part of the country.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 08:59 AM
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5. It DOES make you wonder, doesn't it...?
Also makes you wonder why the right wing is currently "in love" with HRC?


After all, the Corporate Media Cartel has all but declared it a two-candidate race, with no one having a chance except Hillary or Obama. It seems like some people are awfully invested in making sure that Hillary be anointed the certain nominee before a single primary vote is cast. I wonder why? :eyes:

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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 08:50 AM
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2. Senator brownback showered with jeff christy as a boy
Just getting in touch with my deep, dark conservative side. Just tell lies, make shit up, to hell with the truth, just hate, hate, hate.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 08:58 AM
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4. S-C-A-R-E-D is what they are.
As well they should be.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:02 AM
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8. Obama reminds me of Bill Clinton when he first came on the scene.
The dark hourse - the one with the incredible charisma.

I like Obama. But I am pretty far to the Left. And I think he may be further to the Left than the other candidates.

Might be fun to work for him. Huh?
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:20 AM
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12. I enjoy watching the RW run around like little chickens
Tell me that they aren't worried..............
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:26 AM
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14. They are scared to death. And really, really angry. These
candidates of ours really need to watch their backsides. Geez, I wouldn't put it past these guys to try and assassinate Obama. That is how worried about him I am.

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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:35 AM
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22. Sad to say, you're right. I wish I didn't have to agree with you.
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:02 AM
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6. It's not only the right wing...
Dennis Kucinich's website lists the voting record of Obama. I cannot verify if this is accurate; can anyone help with this? If this is correct, Mr. Obama will be held accountable for these votes as the debate heats up.

http://kucinich.us/node/2192
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:02 AM
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7. And making it a twofer by swiftboating Hillary Clinton at the same..
time really it's a threefer, because it's a smear on the whole Democratic Party..really really disgusting and low, even for their standards. :puke:

I hope Howard Dean has something good to counter this. We really need to swing back here.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:06 AM
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9. I'm sure Dean will come out swinging. He is really good at that.
I know - these unbelievably dirty attacks are coming from someone with a lot of money who plays really dirty. Someone out of Karl Rove's playbook.
I don't think this kind of thing plays nearly as well as it did when they pulled it on Kerry. People see it and know that it is just some powerbroker playing really dirty.
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KKKarl is an idiot Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:06 AM
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10. Obama is still an unknown
to many people. That leaves many people un-decided about him. The right wing wants to make sure the first impression of Obama received by the people who do not know him is a negative one. They know they have a fighting chance of winning with Hilary running as the nominee, but with Obama they are worried.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:14 AM
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11. And Hillary. For much the same reason.
They are going after Hillary with all these "Hillary is a conservative" or "Hillary is anopportunist," they are going after Obama with the "he's a crazy Muslim" stories (which are even odder since Obama has courted the evangelical vote so strongly).

It's not because either are liberal, or that they have the best chances of winning, it's because one is black and the other a woman. The Republicans can't stand the thought that either will win. And don't think their attacks don't work. Search Obama or Clinton here at DU, you will see a lot of attacks on both of them--though Obama gets attacked for being "conservative" rather than for being "Muslim," especially back when he was making his "we ought to embrace Evangelical Christian" speeches. My own theory is that a couple of RNC folk drop in to start the flames, but some DUers fan them.

It's the only method Republicans use. They find a candidate's strengths, and start lies to make them look like a candidate's weaknesses. Gore's honesty, Kerry's heroism, now Hillary Clinton's liberalism (watch, someone will attack that now), Obama's tolerance of religions... Doesn't matter who we pick, they will do the same thing. The secret isn't picking a candidate with no skeletons or negatives, since the Republicans just make that stuff up anyway, the secret is picking a candidate who can survive the lies. No idea if Obama or Hillary can be that candidate.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:20 AM
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13. I think both Hillary and Obama are pretty tough.
I think both of them will be all right. Look at what Hillary has been thru with her husband and the huge hate campaign that was waged against them - for years. And she is still standing and standing tall.

And Obama seems like a fighter to me, too.

I hope they both come back and just kick some right wing ass.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:02 AM
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20. I think so, too. nt
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:45 AM
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15. I would really like to know
once and for all if he went to a Muslim school briefly in Indonesia when he first started school but is not a Muslim and is a member of the Church of Christ, which is what it says on snopes. I've argued with people over this who've said he's a practicing Muslim, went to Muslim school the whole time, etc., and I told them what I read on snopes, but now they're saying that might not even be true at all?? I sure wish our "news" could research and report facts rather than just saying whatever the hell they feel like saying or overheard someone saying.... sheesh.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:54 AM
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17. I hadn't ever heard anything about him being Muslim until
last week. And I'm sure that would have come up right away if it were true. That would have been a major, major issue. Someone would have picked up on it.

This is all just a huge right wing smear campaign.

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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:52 AM
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16. Not just FOX, CNN made a number of "errors".
Let's face it, the right and their MSM want Hillary to be the Democratic nominee. There must be a reason. The Dem's should think long and hard about giving them what they want. We've been caught in this trap before. Think about it, how did Joe Lieberman become the party's V.P.? We're being manipulated. I say anybody but Hillary. It's not that I dislike her, I just think she can't win the south. Edwards can win the south and he can capture the female vote. I believe he has the best chance to win.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:29 AM
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18. Obama is Baptist.
Just saw a whole thing on it over on Josh Marshall.
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UnyieldingHierophant Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:51 AM
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19. The right wing or HRC's camp?
think about it
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:38 AM
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23. The right wing did it. Obama is a first-tier VP choice and Clinton knows that.
Think about it.
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UnyieldingHierophant Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:55 AM
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24. Obama is a also a first-tier presidential choice and Clinton knows that*
FTF
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calzone Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 04:54 PM
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26. Unifabrication---------
Unifabrication....The orgy of lies originated with an unsourced article from *insightmag*, an ultra-rightwing RNC/Mooney-funded front. Sun Myung Moon owns & runs it, it was made up out of whole cloth and by claiming the Clinton camp originated it, they kill 2 birds with one flying turd. Of course, the Clinton camp has absolutely denied it, why would they make such an obvious, self-destructive, stupid and ham-handed mistake? Go to the source.
http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Obama_2.htm (insightmag), read it, then click on their opinion link and read the sloppy, lame, moronic response they offer to WaHoPo's howard kurtz's slapdown of the article. The response they give in their defense is as damning as a confession.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:19 AM
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21. It's really unlike CNN to actually report the facts and protect a Dem for a change.
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 11:21 AM by blm
THAT seems like a big turnaround for them. No matter how many times Kerry campaign sent them the facts on swifts and batted down the lies with actual records, they still pushed swiftliars storyline right through to election day.

Good for Obama that someone at CNN is finally doing something to set a lie straight. I hope they start to do it for ALL Dems.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:56 AM
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25. Of course they are
They are terrified that he has a good chance at winning. The fact the black person has a good chance at the Presidency terrifies them.
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