Will Terry McAuliffe run Hillary's campaign with the same neglect he ran the DNC

[blm]

for four years, or did he neglect the DNC infrastructure and ignore the security of the voting process for four years to make CERTAIN Hillary had a presidential campaign in the near future?

I am very much looking forward to the Dem series of debates where we have the opportunity to learn about all of our candidates, their accomplishments and their characters.

I'm sure Tonya Harding didn't know thugs were in place to attack her strongest rivals.

[generaldemocrat]

1. OK, can we get something straight here on Terry McAuliffe?

His real name is Terry McAwful. Sums up his performance and record as DNC chair.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

6. plus, he is one irritating SOB, isn't he? I feel like bitchslapping him

repeatedly.

He and melhman - opposite sides of the same pathetic coin.

[corvusblog]

28. Wait a minute......Terry McAuliffe

Wait a minute...Terry McAuliffe?

Don't walk....run over to Counterpunch and read about Mr. McConjob:

http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair10192004.html

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:lYZn-0earDUJ:www.counterpunch.org/stclair10192004.html+counterpunch+terry+mcauliffe&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

The Political Business of Terry McAuliffe
By JEFFREY ST. CLAIR

In May 1999, the Labor Department brought suit against Jack Moore and John Grau, charging the two men with mismanaging the pension fund for the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers. Moore was the longtime secretary of the union, while Grau was the vice-president of the National Electrical Contractor's Association, which was partner in the fund. At issue was a series of sweetheart real estate deals in central Florida, which regulators labeled "imprudent", and cost the fund money. Moore and Grau eventually settled the case for more than six figures. The union was forced to kick in another $5 million to cover the losses to the pension fund. The person at the center of the scandal, however, made out in the deal very well, indeed. His name: Terry McAuliffe, now head of the DNC.

McAuliffe met Moore in 1988, when both were raising money for the doomed presidential bid of Dick Gephardt. They became close friends, allies in a campaign to redesign the Democratic Party into a more moderate political vessel, along the lines of the pre-Reagan Republicans. Moore controlled the $6 billion IBEW pension fund and had a reputation for investing money in businesses run by friends and political cronies.

So it was that in November 1990, McAuliffe approached Moore and his friend Grau with a proposal for a real estate partnership in central Florida with an investment company called American Capital Management, which McAuliffe owned with his wife Dorothy. The deal involved the purchase of the Woodland Square Shopping Center and five apartment complexes outside Orlando, Florida. It was a lopsided partnership. The pension fund put up $39 million to purchase the property. McAuliffe shelled out $100, yet he and his wife enjoyed 50 percent ownership in the project. He eventually parlayed his $100 investment into a $2.45 million profit.

[Greeby]

2. One can only hope nt

[Nite Owl]

3. I'd like to know if

Carville is going to be on her team after him saying he wanted Dean fired for '06. He's the one who will be responsible for any dirty tactics from her campaign.

[BayCityProgressive]

4. Whether or not we like her...

I don't think we can deny that her campaign will be a true sight to behold. She will NOT allow any room for incompetence...she will come out swinging and I think will be the most efficient Dem campaign we have seen in years...

[blm]

5. Did Terry run the DNC like that?

Or was the DNC being run so inefficiently and with so much neglect for 2000, 2002, and 2004 BECAUSE a weak DNC that could not counter the RNC machine in 2000, 2002 and 2004 was the first need for the 2008 campaign?

[Nite Owl]

7. If efficient means allowing anyone on

her staff to 'swiftboat' other dem nominees she will end up losing more than she gains. I'm willing to give her, all of them a fair hearing but allowing someone like Carville to spew his hatred is too below the belt. They have to rise or fall on their own merits not on pulling down their opponents.

[_dynamicdems]

30. Well spoken.

Let's see who can rise or fall without being tripped or pushed.

[John Q. Citizen]

17. I certanly hope she runs a better 08 campaign than how she bungled health care

reform.

Her immediate sell out to mega insurence companies set back single payer health care reform for over a decade and a half.

[blm]

19. I hear ya, but I just don't think McAuliffe so much 'bungled' as DNC Chair as

he did collapse its national infrastructure on PURPOSE to assure that Bush stayed in office for 2 terms and Hillary ran to replace him.

I believe Howard Dean and those Dem lawmakers who support him and his work, threw a monkey wrench into their plan to control every aspect of the 2008 campaign for her.

[Hippo_Tron]

21. Got any evidence to support that?

McAuliffe did a miserable job as DNC Chair, but I highly doubt it was on purpose so that he could get Hillary elected in 2008.

[The Magistrate]

24. No Evidence Will Be Cited, Sir, Because None Exists

It is a fantasy, and nothing more.

McAullif's strength is as a fund-raiser; he is only a conventional tactician, with the short-range out-look of the species.

But the master tactician and strategist of Sen. Clinton's campaign will be her husband. The employed functionaries will be only cogs in the design.

[Hippo_Tron]

25. Couldn't agree more McAuliffe did a great job raising money but not spending it

And I have no doubt that her husband will be active in advising her campaign as well as his old team, including James Carville. It will be interesting to see if their methods from '92 still apply in today's climate.

[blm]

32. It's a reasonable conclusion based on his performance. One could also easily conclude

that after Sept. 11, 2001, Terry McAuliffe just never expected 2002 and 2004 worth the effort fully expecting there was no way for a challenger to win.

We base conclusions on what we see and what we learn. On Nov. 2-3, 2004 we learned that all the time the DNC's Office of Integrity had cajoled Dems into believing they were spending their years countering the GOP tactics we learned about during the 2000 election fraud hearings, it turned out they had done nothing and, in fact, the problems from 2000 were worse.

[Hippo_Tron]

34. Even if what you say is true (there are no citations) that's not proof...

Of a conspiracy to run the DNC in the ground for 8 years to make way for Hillary. Some DUers like to think that there is a full blown war going on between the Clintons and everyone else in the Democratic party. Yet they have no proof of this which leads me to believe that the reality is far less dramatic than it is made out to be.

[blm]

35. Cumulative. Hard to believe anyone so competent to run things for Clinton campaign

would have performed so NEGLIGENTLY in the years he ran the DNC, especially after the 2000 campaign were so many election fraud issues were revealed, yet they only worsened in 2002 and 2004.

So.... was McAuliffe just outrageously incompetent or deviously incompetent?

If he was outrageously incompetent would he be running a Clinton campaign for president today?

[Hippo_Tron]

36. As Magistrate said, I doubt McAuliffe will be doing strategy for the Clinton campaign

His job will be to get the big donors to write their checks, something he proved very good at during his tenure as the DNC Chair. The strategy will most likely be managed by her husband and members of his old team.

[Island Blue]

8. This should be interesting to watch.

If Hillary feels like her best chance to win is to acquire the services of possibly the worst DNC Chair ever, I say "go for it". :crazy: She might as well begin to make really horrible decisions early in the game.

[blm]

9. I'm not so sure McAuliffe was incompetent or incompetent as a tactic.

Seems to me that their attacks on the current Chairman Dean was a show of their need to control every aspect of the party and its elections.

The grassroots support of Dean for fixing what McAuliffe broke put a cramp on their overall plan.

[BlueIris]

27. See, I think it's going to be so "interesting" that I'm willing to revive...

my pet conspiracy theory that she's intentionally tanking her candidacy 'cause she really doesn't want to run right now...or maybe she's pretending that she's going to tank it.

[OHdem10]

10. Is not McAuliffe's talent

raising money from the "fat cats"?

[blm]

11. Yes. But look how he spent the money on DC-centric efforts like DC headquarters

and lavishness.

Dean spends the money on rebuilding the state party organizations that had been left to neglect and collapse by the previous two Chairs put in place by Clinton.

[OHdem10]

13. I agree Dean is head and shoulders above McAuliffe

and has done most important improvements.

I was just implying the reason McAuliffe would be chosen--Money
raising ability.

This is the Split the Difference Crowd--just run in 17 or so
states and get just enough votes to win.

IMO when you "split the difference so many states are left out
of the process, your win is always questioned.

The 50 State Strategy gives all Americans a sense they were at
least included in the process and the win is more credible.

[bvar22]

14. Yes.

And in return, the Fat Cats get to write policy.

[burythehatchet]

12. I sure hope so.

Perhaps she can recruit Donna Brazile, as well.

[emulatorloo]

16. LOL n/t

[mzmolly]

15. Let's hope so.

;)

[Ignacio Upton]

18. If she miracously gets elected

Then look for McAuliffe to return to DNC Chairman (sadly enough.) The Clintonistas will kick Dean out and crush dissent.

[crispini]

23. The DNC chair is an ELECTED position.

Grassroots support of Dean helped get him in, and I don't see that going away. When I contacted my DNC member he told me this was the first time that he had EVER been lobbied by anybody about the DNC chair position.

[_dynamicdems]

31. You're right. The attack on Dean was a prelude.

They want him out because he's loyal to the Democratic party and not to the Clintonistas.

[Unbowed]

20. Wow, you don't pull any punches! Bravo!

:yourock:

Tonya Harding! :rofl:

It took me a sec to get it, but yeah, I see it.

[Renew Deal]

22. With any luck, he will.

:)

[Tatiana]

26. Heh, one can only hope... n/t

[JNelson6563]

29. We know they'd ignore many states

which would be foolish.

[blm]

33. I recall screams from Ohio staff after 2000 and 2002 - but DNC still let it collapse even further

before 2004. It is hard to believe it couldn't be helped in some way. Dean is certainly finding ways to strengthen party infrastructure.

And Terry KNEW Ohio was going to be the battleground.