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jpgpenn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:14 PM
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"Dems in rush to Kerry a nominee"
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 05:15 PM by jpgpenn
Dems in a rush to Kerry a nominee
Associated Press

WASHINGTON - In an anti-Bush voting spree, Democrats are racing through their front-loaded election calendar to crown a presidential nominee - making John Kerry all but unstoppable in the delegate chase.

But their rush to judgment could backfire in the heat of a general election contest if Kerry escapes the nomination fight untested by a front-runner's usual pitfalls: gaffes, mini-scandals and buyers' remorse.

While a confident Kerry looks ahead to the fall, laying plans for a multimillion-dollar ad campaign against President Bush, his rivals are begging voters to take a second look. They have one week to slow Kerry's momentum, or the race may be over.

"You have the power to keep this debate alive," Howard Dean said yesterday in Wisconsin, site of a Feb. 17 primary that every campaign views as a decisive showdown. Dean, the race's dominating force until his sudden fall a month ago, blamed the media and pundits for the premature coronation.

http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/news/local/7916570.htm

sorry if this is a dupe.

People should not easily jump on a bandwagon without fully knowing the history of that candidate.


edit; text fix


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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:20 PM
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1. Thats the wisest message post I've read here in weeks.
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 05:20 PM by liberalnurse
It seems like the voters are being lazy, not researching or learning about the candidates or searching their souls.

It's like McDonald's voting....thats it...Drive Thur voting mentality.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:22 PM
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3. I heard something on NPR that seems to back up your thoughts.
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 05:22 PM by redqueen
It was an exit poll from one of the early primaries, not sure which one, which said that the vast majority of the voters only decided within the past week whom they would support.

I can't believe they were deciding on issues, as I'm sure they'd heard them all before then. :shrug:
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auntpattywatty Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:20 PM
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2. Theonly candidate that has been vetted is Dean. Kerry = Buyer's Remorse !
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jpgpenn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:23 PM
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4. I don't agree entirely
Clark has been "vetted" at great length from the begining. From the start the repukes and major media did everything they could to derail his run. After all these months they found instead that blackballing him and pumping others up was working a heck of alot better!
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:27 PM
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5. Kerry is too damn good to make a mistake
Too disciplined. Too experienced. Too smart.

He's going to ride this, and then when he takes both California and New York it's going to be all she wrote.

Maybe....just maybe.....people really LIKE Kerry.
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jpgpenn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:27 PM
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6. your kidding right?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:33 PM
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8. I don't think so and it's not far fetched- Kerry is good. REALLY good.
The only mistake he might make is not preparing for certain attacks which he should have anticipated.

Again- Kerry is a good, tough, campaigner.
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jpgpenn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:45 PM
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13. Kerry is a Carreer Washington Insider!
Exactly what our country doesn't need at this time! IMO
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:02 PM
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20. ditto
:kick:
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:16 PM
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21. I am amused at Clarks statement's
That he is not a Washington insider.

A 4 star general is the ultimate insider, able to influence political decisions and advising policy, without being responsible to the electorate.

Anyone who has worked or known people who work in Washington know that the treal insiders are the career civil servants and career military men who are the real insiders.

As John F. Kennedy said about them...

"I give orders, but nothing happens"

Nothing happens if the real insiders do not act on directives of the elected officials, which is why Bush wanted so many departments to be merged int on big department that he could have his hit men in charge of.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:20 PM
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23. ditto two
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:33 PM
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7. Has anyone read my posts this week???
I've been saying this for at least a week. The GOP desperately WANTS us to finish up ASAP. When the nominee is annointed before the convention, all eyes shift to... BUSH! He has the floor, he has the money, he has the office. Right now we have the eyes of the world... people getting their panties in a wad now about being afraid Bush will win in November are hastening our demise.

Stretch it out folks... don't cave in to majority thinking. We have plenty of time to rally 'round the nominee, when it becomes statistically impossible for anyone else to overtake him. If we had let Clinton drop out at this point in the game in his first primary.. what would have happened?

You'd think people would WANT to have all the media attention to take down Bush for the next few months. Once someone clinches that nod, we slip into nothingness until our convention. The media loves a horse race.. keep it interesting. Vote your HEART now, and your head in November. Please...
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:38 PM
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10. Maybe that's why Dean decided to stay in after Wisconsin
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:51 PM
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14. if you don't like the front loaded primaries
blame the DNC, not the Republicans. It's been the Democratic strategy this election cycle to choose a candidate earlier rather than later.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:37 PM
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9. We're Doomed
I never thought that a majority of people voting for a certain candidate makes that person unelectable. :crazy:

This business isn't for the weak-kneed. Buckle up and...

Bring it on!
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tobius Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:40 PM
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11. my thoughts
put into words. Also some who are excited about about "massive uptick in voter participation" may want to consider the possibility that moving these contests up earlier gives some the hope that in this primary cycle they might make some difference in who the nominee is. Catch-22

"Human beings are perhaps never more frightening than when they are convinced beyond doubt that they are right."
Laurens van der Post
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:41 PM
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12. understand the premise
but bottom line, so far no matter what I wish, Kerry is winning at the polls.
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:57 PM
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15. What I really got upset about
today was when Judy Woodruff brought out Even Bayh and talked to him about the possibility of his being picked for the Vice President.

In the hubbub of all the primary activity, I totally forgot about the DNC and the DLC not caring about us grassroots people. The DLC wanted to get rid of Dean, and they pretty much did. Clark never did get much publicity. Donna Brazille (DNC) was praising Kerry today. Terry McCaulife wants a nominee as soon as possible. So, to me this means Kerry has their total backing and the DNC/DLC will pick the Vice Presidential nominee. If Evan Bayh gets the VP nomination, I will have had it. Nothing much will change in this country, except the poor people might be a little better off.

I might be all wet, but I'm depressed anyway about this.
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jpgpenn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 05:59 PM
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16. The Washington Insiders want their Washington Insider!
That is the last thing we need as a country at this point!
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jpgpenn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 06:55 PM
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18. ignore ANYTHING from Woodruff.
She has lost all her journalistic credibility this past year!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 06:06 PM
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17. There are some advantages to the strategy
- united front
- more fundraising time
- GOP will spend attack $$$ earlier than planned

And why is the GOP immune from the "buyers remorse" factor, anyways?
If we focus our attacks on Bush, there should be plenty of buyer's remorse.

Of course I don't like how it's going in relation to the candidate I support, but that's not the ultimate goal, here.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:01 PM
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19. We know as much about Kerry as we do the others
They have all been around awhile. C'mon jump in, water's fine.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:18 PM
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22. Ah...come on...you're asking people to think?
Ya know...he says some nice things and all. He's good enough. nuff said.
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