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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:27 PM
Original message
Hillary: "I cannot support Bush's proposed escalation of war in Iraq."
Edited on Wed Jan-10-07 10:34 PM by IndianaGreen
now breaking on MSNBC

On edit: Joe Scarborough read a breaking news story in which Hillary announces her opposition to Bush's plan to escalate the war.

On second edit (changed thread title): Hillary's actual quote

"I cannot support Bush's proposed escalation of war in Iraq."
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:29 PM
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1. Of Course, Ma'am
Did anyone seriously think she would support it?

"Can't nobody here play this game?"
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:30 PM
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3. I thought she might remain joined at the hip with Lieberman
Edited on Wed Jan-10-07 10:30 PM by IndianaGreen
As Gomer Pyle would say: "Surprise, surprise, surprise!"
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:36 PM
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8. Then Bear The Poor Guess In Mind In Future Analysis, Old Friend
Sen. Clinton is very good at the work, and has simply played this by the numbers: do not speak against something until it is oficial and on the record, so there is no chance of a wrong-foot in partial knowledge only.

Lieberman is simply a fool and sold-out shill....
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:39 PM
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12. Her voting record is far more progressive than Lieberman's.
They've never been "joined at the hip."

www.progressivepunch.com

You can compare their voting records at the link above.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:48 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. of course it is
but those willing to hate her "just cuz" aren't willing to look at evident contrary to their preconceived idea of what she's about
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 05:21 AM
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22. I pledge that if she gets the nomination she will get the "Kerry treatment"
in that I will give her a good hard look see. Who know, it might turn out to work as well with her as it did with the good Senator. God knows half of what I know about her is likely RW inspired, just as half of what I knew about Gore at one time was equally RW inspired. Or Kennedy for that matter. Some parts of my brain still need "de-sheepling"
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 05:49 PM
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24. no doubt
Edited on Thu Jan-11-07 05:49 PM by AtomicKitten
She already got the "Clinton treatment" and in the final analysis the "Clinton treatment" and the "Kerry treatment" are one in the same - compliments of the GOP Wrecking Machine. We would have our heads in the sand to think anyone we put up in 2008 will not be treated the same. That's for damn sure.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 05:57 PM
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26. Well, I didn't mean that sort of treatment
I was referring to my own version of the "Kerry treatment". But you're right, she or anyone we nominate will likely get swiftboated. And hopefully those on our side will support whoever is nominated, at least in that regard.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 08:47 PM
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34. I don't hate her. In fact, I am sure I would like her.
My support hinges on one vote, IRAQ WAR. Or one attitude, humble plea for forgiveness for voting wrong. She will not receive my support.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 08:23 AM
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23. I'm sorry, but these are
not actions of a leader. She had no ETHICAL reason to wait to announce. She did so for only two reasons: 1) waiting for the bloviating beltway boys to give their approval after they put their fingers to the wind and 2) it gave her the spotlight.

Politically smart? Maybe. Ethically honest. Never.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:29 PM
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2. why did she wait this long to say what we all knew, hell durbin isn't running
in '08 and he spoke immediatly after the speech for 5 minutes.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:33 PM
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5. Simple:
She had to get her nails done before she could stick her finger in the air, to see which way the winds were blowing.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:54 PM
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11. LOL so true, and why I am not crazy about her.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:40 PM
Response to Reply #5
13. Sexist answer.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 08:49 PM
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35. Female feminist laughing hard.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:41 PM
Response to Reply #2
14. She actually had stated her opposition last week.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 01:30 AM
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19. Great timing for the spotlight. Hill created "breaking news" by announcing later.
She avoided being lumped in with the rest of the "anti-escalation" gang.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #2
25. maybe because the Democratic leadership chose Durbin
to be the Democratic rebuttal?

Ya think?
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:32 PM
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4. Excellent. After Brownback, Voinovich, Smith and others
did, it was safe to come out against the troop surge. Nice to hear her statement. Sad that it came after all those Republicans weighed in in opposition first.

Will she join with Sen. Kennedy to put a binding resolution on the floor of the Senate to stop this madness?
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 12:41 AM
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17. Now, you know that is asking to much. She might have to show leadership
and make a decision that she would have to defend later on in her run.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 06:06 PM
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28. did you honestly think she would support this surge?
and do you really honestly believe she waited until several Republicans came out against it to make it "safe"?



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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:35 PM
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6. A PR Stunt -- how "cute"
She just waited so as to be part of the news cycle. Cheap trick. And too obvious.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:36 PM
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7. It does increase the likelihood of Congressional action against the war
Lieberman is the only holdout. How about Salazar?
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #7
27. he's opposed to troop increase
no link, but it was on local radio this morning (denver).
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 06:47 PM
Response to Reply #27
30. Salazar against thesurge, and so is Senator Nelson
Looks like Bush lost the support of the conservative Democrats, and with Brownback against the surge, Bush's support among evangelicals may be in peril.

Lieberman is an independent!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 11:47 PM
Response to Reply #6
15. She is no more or less political than any other of the
politicians in Congress that are simultaneously running for president.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 02:10 AM
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20. And if a politician isn't political s/he isn't likely to win.
I'm only interested in candidates who are willing to play to win.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 01:13 AM
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18. brilliant
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Rebellious Republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:40 PM
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9. She must have detected a slight breeze blowing in that direction...


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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-10-07 10:50 PM
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10. Hardly a surprise...nt
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 02:20 AM
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21. Is she a compass or a weathervane?
Feels like the latter.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #21
29. She's a lightning rod.
For criticism - from both the left and the right.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #21
31. You mean like changing one's mind
after voting 'yes' on the IWR but only when the polls indicate it's safe to do so?

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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 07:29 PM
Response to Reply #31
32. if you read the responses concurrently..
They sound like "Desperate Housewives" all living on Wisteria Ln..

cackle, peck, peck...

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 07:34 PM
Response to Reply #32
33. I just get damn sick and tired
of people hurling nasty epithets toward one politician that could very easily be applied to others.

This selective jihad/mercy crap gets on my last nerve.

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