bush's surge and its positive effect on the conservative mind

[BOSSHOG]

bush wants to send more of our kids to their deaths in Iraq because he is too proud to admit he is a liar and four years later he is wrong, but if he does send another 20,000 or more to Iraq and the casualty figures escalate it will be booming business for right wing talking points.

- If more of our Soldiers and Marines get killed in Iraq there will be less strain on our VA system. I mean what do liberals want, a soldier who most likely is lying about PTSD clogging up their precious VA system or one less to deal with. They can't have it both ways. And besides all these troops who are seeking assistance because they lost an arm or a leg or something like brain damage are volunteers. And by gawd they volunteered for the surge as well. Slam dunk, another brilliant rational explanation of this war from the conservative mind. To all you liberals, its a conservative thing, you wouldn't understand.

[havocmom]

1. BOSSHOG, I am cynical enough to believe you are correct

There is NEVER enough money to take care of people. Plenty to kill people with, but never enough to take care of them.

The last thing the junta wants is Vets home and talking.

They and their corporate masters are involved in an unholy alchemy- they turn blood into money. And they have long since learned their lesson on the danger of leaving witnesses alive to talk.

A young man who values my thoughts and opinions asked if he should join the military. I told him to take his skill at flying a plane and a copy of the US Constitution and get outta here. Hole up someplace and keep that document safe for the day its concepts can be restored. Signing on the line right now is signing your own death warrant.

[BOSSHOG]

2. And don't forget

More get killed in carwrecks then on the battlefield. Another brilliant example of conservative logic. If our kids get killed in Iraq, bush doesn't have to concern himself with them. But all those nasty injuries have to be dealt with. And all the poor patriotic conservative citizens of our country will be burdened with having to pay taxes to take care of those kids. It just isn't fair. Lord am I a jaded citizen. Its a shame we have to contend with the ignorant and their negative and costly plans.

[havocmom]

5. Meet me later for some whisky and righteous rage

Used to drive past rows of those metal boxes (you know the ones) stacked 6 high and four deep along the fence at Port Hueneme Naval in Cal. How I hated those damned metal boxes.

Never went to a high school reunion. Not strong enough to face all the empty chairs.

But I am strong enough to rage against the unholy alchemy. And against those fine Americans who don't see the value in paying taxes to care for those who protected their fat asses.

Meet me later for some whisky and righteous rage, my friend. Then, on to tomorrow's battle.

[Kagemusha]

3. It wouldn't help. The ratio of wounded to killed is 8-1 this time not 3-1

More killed means 8x more wounded anyway.

Iraq's meant to be Bush's shining achievement, his legacy, his gift to the world, turning the country ruled by Saddam Hussein into a beacon of light unto the heathen darkness. I don't think killing American troops is on his mind at all. I think it's just the cost of national greatness to him, and he's determined that his generation achieve greatness like the WWII one did.

[Warpy]

4. Nah, those kids are much more expensive if they get wounded

although I wouldn't put that sort of cruelty past most Freepers. That's how they think.

This is pure juvenile stubbornness on Stupid's part, fueled by the fantasy lives of a bunch of old desk jockeys who think Vietnam would have been won had they been in charge.

Yes, this looks like Vietnam because that's the war they're really fighting. Rumdum and Cheney remade the military into the type of force they thought could fight and win a guerrilla war, which they saw as the war of the future. It's the war of the past, though, and the only way to win it is to avoid it in the first place.

The neocons who inspired the location of this war with their dreams of empire and controlling the world's oil supply realize the whole thing is a fiasco, and they're ready to give up. They're evil and wrongheaded, but they're not stupid.

What we have left is a tiny group of men who just can't let go of what they've based their entire lives upon, that Vietnam could have and should have been won and they are the architects of the means.

That's why it's getting so hard for them to find crazy generals.