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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 03:39 PM
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Thank you, Wes Clark and Michael Moore...
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 03:55 PM by jchild
Thank you Wes Clark for proudly touting your Michael Moore endorsement and for refusing to renounce it. Thank you for refusing to let the deserter-in-charge off the hook during Peter Jennings grilling of you during the Fox farcical debate. You took it on the chin--a right jab from conservatives who said you should chastise Moore and denounce his charges; and a left uppercut from liberals who accused you of having no balls because you refused to fall into Jennings'semantical trap. Your strategy was brilliant--only a few of us saw it then--and now the media are doing the job they should have been doing four years ago: investigating Bush's military career.

Thank you, Michael Moore, for the information-packed article on Bush's swiss-cheese history in the Texas Air National Guard. You are despised by haters on the right and ridiculed by purists on the left, but it takes major cajones to do the job you do. Thank you for your fortitude.

Because of you, Wes Clark and Michael Moore, the deserter-in-charge's military record (or lack thereof) is receiving major media scrutiny. Bush is on the defensive, grasping at ethereal straws to protect himself. Any good military strategist knows that the advantage lies with the offense--defensiveness shows weakness, insecurity.

Thank you, Wes and Michael, for helping to topple the pretender. Wes, even if you don't receive the nomination, this party appreciates that a man of your moral and professional standing put your reputation on the line to help our party and our nation recover from the actions of this hellish administration. We owe you a debt of gratitude.
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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 03:40 PM
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1. Michael Moore
Good guy, all around
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 03:44 PM
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3. Go Michael! Go Wes!

You are the BEST!:toast:
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 03:54 PM
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7. My wife, neice and I...
...just watched Bowling for Columbine" last night. I just love the part where charlton heston shows just how much of a coward he is by walking away.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 03:44 PM
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2. Clark....
took a few bullets for all of us by not condeming Moore during the debate...ever since that debate the media has ignored him and his numbers have fallen dramatically....it ruined him but it needed to be done by someone with guts...who better than a 4 star general!
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 07:19 PM
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20. I haven't given up yet...
I still hope he carries a couple of "real" southern states. It can happen.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 03:49 PM
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4. Should thanks also go to Peter Jennings?
I'm starting to think his question might have been strategic.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:01 PM
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12. I think you be correct
It was a very cunning ploy. Moore and my man Clark may have been the drink but Jennings was the straw. His question of Clark in the debate brought on the next big thing...Terry McAuliffe's wonderful jab on "This Week with Snuffie."

I love those cute little snowballs that roll!
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thelocalkgb Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 10:52 PM
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26. I hope it was
That way I don't have to burn my autographed Peter Jennings book and I don't have to end my undying love for my favorite Canadian
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dae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 03:50 PM
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5. You're absolutely right jc, without Moore and Clark this was a non issue.
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 04:00 PM by dae
Clark took a massive beating from the press and some fellow Democrats for not denouncing Moore's statements.

Edited: For spelling because I'm an idiot.
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SEAburb Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:00 PM
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11.  Clark took a hit for it and Kerry got a bounce
Doesn't seem fair.
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:34 PM
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18. Yes, John "over the top" Kerry
defends his boner brother and still benefits.
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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 10:47 PM
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23. Moore fired the shot, Clark took the hit, Kerry got the medal.
It sucks.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 10:51 PM
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25. Look, even if Clark's campaign is a casualty, it helped Democrats
in the General Election because it is now an issue.
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OutlawCorporatePolls Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 03:53 PM
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6. cheers.
thanks wes and michael

give em hell.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 03:56 PM
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8. And don't forget to thank
Peter Jennings. Yeah, we all thought he was being a jerk and he phrased the question in such a way as to cover his ass. But really, would this story have exploded without his question?
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:02 PM
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13. I did send an email to Peter Jennings
thanking him for asking the question.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:03 PM
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14. Yeah, it would have...
That is the beauty of the strategy. Michael Moore has been the most prominent Bush critic who has worked the hardest to expose his record. His teaming up with the 4-Star Clark made it a certainty that it would be an issue.

Were it not for Clark and Moore's partnership, there would have been no question about Bush's service to ask Clark.

Clark knew Moore's charges against Bush, and he welcomed his endorsement--he celebrated it. Clark possessed the unimpeachable framework on which Moore could hang his accusations. The two together were a molotov cocktail aimed at Bush's career. All Jennings did was notice this--which I believe was the duo's plan all along.

Right now, MSNBC is discussing their "top story": Bush's "questionable" military service. None of this was a mainstream issue until Clark and Moore united--it is obvious that this was their objective, and it indeed has been achieved. Bush is all over the news today.

And don't forget that Clark continues to nail Bush for "prancing around the deck in a flight suit." It's coming together--sad that the casualty will be Clark's candidacy, though.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 03:57 PM
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9. Wes, once again, has done his duty for his country....
Edited on Tue Feb-10-04 03:58 PM by Rowdyboy
Just wish the voters weren't dropping the ball. Whoever eventually wins the nomination will owe his viability, in part, the Michael Moore and Wesley Clark for this issue. Also Faux News and Peter Jennings :evilgrin:
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:00 PM
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10. Clark took one for the team
And the team said, "You know what, you're not really a member of this team." (As in, "Wes Clark is a Republican.")

Maybe the Boys and Girls Club, also known as the Democratic Party, will send him a thank-you note one day.

NAH.

Anyway, Wes did the right thing, as he always does. Which is why we (of the Clark avatar crowd) love him.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:15 PM
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15. thank you Wes and Michael
and of cource Peter Jennings for posing the question. And the media and the dems better run with this ball. Lots of repubs have children in Iraq fighting this unjust war for an AWOL president.
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HoosierClarkie Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:19 PM
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16. Wes Clark has done so much for this Party.
THANK YOU GENERAL!!!

:loveya:
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:21 PM
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17. Good Job. Hope shot wasn't fired too early.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 04:41 PM
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19. Without these two, the AWOL story would still be in the
hinterweeks.

:yourock:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 10:42 PM
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21. A Kick for the General
KICK
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 10:46 PM
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22. Moore put the stake in his heart and you're thanking him ?
interesting post and indicative of my fears for the Dem cause this go round.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 10:50 PM
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24. Even if Clark's campaign fizzled, without him, without Moore, this
issue would never have become an issue.

And yes I thank them both.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 10:56 PM
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28. this "issue" is already yesterday's news
sooner or later dems are going to figure out that there some REAL issues that we need to be concerning ourselves with.

Bush will have to beaten with a better platform not a million BB's.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 11:01 PM
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29. According to whom?
Just because you are so brilliant as to be light years ahead of the mainstream media does not mean that *all* Americans are.

Only the cap of the iceberg that is this issue has surfaced.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-04 10:53 PM
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27. Well-said!
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