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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 03:46 AM
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Could B*** start this "surge" before the Dems can do anything to stop him?
A letter is a great thing but we all know that this bone head doesn't listen to anyone except Cheney and Rove. I have this fear that he is going to give an order in the next few weeks before his power is taken away.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 04:41 AM
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1. You Are Not Alone
And the order might just be another attack on us. I put nothing past these guys.
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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 04:52 AM
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2. Could be the time has arrived for an
emergency session of the Democratically led Congress to convene and nip the phucking phascists in the bud. The psychopath Shrub is certifiably insane... and so is the number two Dead Eyed Dick. Shove their a$$es in jail.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Madame President Nancy Pelosi (thank God)
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 05:22 AM
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3. Do you think they will do that? And soon? I mean that crazy man has his finger on the button!!
It really scares the shit out of me.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 05:47 AM
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6. Damn! Was there a coup?
As much as we might like it to happen, we are still a nation of laws. We both know Pelosi will not be President. If anything like that was ever to happen, there would be resignations and a Nixon-Ford situation. Reality is a bitch.
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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 05:50 PM
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18. I am not suggesting anything that is unlawful...
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." - Benjamin Franklin

The Speaker of the House (Nancy) is the next in line after the President and the Vice President.
Isn't that a refreshing thought?
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 05:31 AM
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4. The escalation of the war against Iraqis could be pulled off
Edited on Sat Jan-06-07 05:48 AM by EST
quickly and quietly but that is not very likely because of the following:
Thirty thousand troops have to come from somewhere and that big a troop movement is sure to attract attention.

McCain is the primary enabler, along with the idiot Lieberman, and both of them, in their presentation at AEI, made it patently obvious that they were privy to *'s plans, that it's a foregone conclusion that * is going to escalate the war, and that McCain and Lieberman are the advance men-preparing the way, as it were. They are not yet done with the preparation, although their speeches have drawn wide attention: basically telling all and sundry what the next move is.

Although Rove and Cheney have fired the commanders who disagreed with them and have moved in commanders who can then tell bushco what they want to hear, the moves have not quite been completed yet. These moves are particularly interesting - as legal cover for the crime they are perpetrating - and,since the moves will give legal and political cover, the criminal cabal can then claim that the "commanders on the ground" have ostensibly requested additional troops.
(Sly, very sly.)

I expect the initial unveiling will happen next week, with a replay of another big lie.
The lie, of course, will be just like the "I have no war plans on my desk" bullshit he pulled before the invasion, with an "I'm still listening and thinking" pile of crap hooked on, and the final announcement coming just before or with the sotu speech.

His chimpyness also has to make sure the money is all lined up, because the funds have to be available to kick the move into high gear. Also, the fix has to be in in the senate, through the same two fascist idiots referenced above. And, of course, the senate can then be counted on to hand him another off-budget $120 billion to prove that they support the troops.

THe troop movements will likely start around early February, taking advantage of the weather, and will more than likely include about half the remaining national guard units as well as stripping the staff at several military installations around the world. This re-deployment will also take time.

My guess is that there will be some sentimental (psychopathic?) attachment to the date of March nineteenth for obvious reasons.

THe criminal cabal's guaranteed re-election of Joementum is beginning to look like one of the most stunning political coups of all time, plus it is a masterful stroke on Lieberman's part, enabling him to be McCain's running mate in 2008 - a strong, perhaps unbeatable, setup. (And then president, after McCain drops dead two or three pears into his term.)

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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 05:37 AM
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5. Screw the "surge" (which should be
called an escalation.) I wake up every morning expecting to read that the night before the Emperor unilaterally, secretly, and with no consultation with Congress bombed the shit out of Iran. I would put nothing past him. The past 6 years have demonstrated clearly that he is convinced he is above the law, can do exactly what he wants, when he wants and to whom he wants. He repeatedly executes endruns around Conress for which he has utter contempt & disdain. Spitting on the will of the People & the Constitution are the norm for this junta. But impeachment is "off the table".
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 06:15 AM
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8. You very likely have the proper slant on it.
There are many other reasons why the criminal cabal has such a keen ambition for fatal escalation.

Since the so-called "surge" cannot be a surge, all the support for at least another 18-24 months has to be in place. Unless the troops are already in theatre and a surge can be pulled off quietly, it cannot be effective.

If it really were a surge, all the miscreants that the "surge" is directed at will simply leave town, stash their weapons, and lay low until the surge subsides. The only way that there can be any effectiveness is by having the troops occupy the community they have moved into, long term, and become the militia and police. That means a couple years, at least.

The move to put carriers and subs into the gulf, along with more troops in the area, is definitely a strong move in saber rattling so Ahmadinejahd will keep his head down.
I am uncomfortable giving even grudging respect for this vile crew, but, given what they trying to pull, it is a sound move.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 02:56 PM
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10. What you said was very enlightening. I never thought that they could just hide out until the "surge
was over. That is reason enough to not do it. But of course we are all talking to brick walls.


"If it really were a surge, all the miscreants that the "surge" is directed at will simply leave town, stash their weapons, and lay low until the surge subsides. The only way that there can be any effectiveness is by having the troops occupy the community they have moved into, long term, and become the militia and police. That means a couple years, at least."
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cleveramerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 06:14 AM
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7.  W can have a surge If he wants one
there is very little congress can do about it, except stop appropriating, which Madame Speaker has repeatedly said she is not for.

The letter was simply to cut W off at the knees as far as pretending his new "strategy" is something Dems might go along with.

It was a good move but unlikely to have any bearing at all on W's speech next week.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 09:26 AM
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9. Yes, he can.
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NV1962 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 05:45 PM
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12. Absolutely: let's not confuse wishful thinking with reality.
He can, and given his high levels of christosterone, he's even likely to pull his C-in-C rank to go ahead.

After all, the IWR gave him the authority he needs. Thank you very much, Democratic cosponsors!
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 05:40 PM
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11. Where will he get the troops? There are none; he will have to
extend tours and send people back. He is killing our soldiers; send him to jail; do not pass GO.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 05:51 PM
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13. It wouldn't suprise me.
That "surge" might better be sold with a surprise offensive to go along with it. Those jerks.

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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 06:12 PM
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14. yes, he can. nt
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saberjet22 Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 10:23 PM
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15. surge, sure. surge, my ass.
NO TROOPS TO SEND, NO MONEY TO FINANCE IT WITH,... NO SURGE.
BUSH CAN'T EVEN FUCK UP CORRECTLY.remember, a surge is the opposite of what the people in this country want. well, hell, what do we know. he's the king.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 10:55 PM
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16. of course
whats gonna stop him?
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fuzzyball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 11:02 PM
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17. Nope dems can't stop the commander in chief if
constitution is to be followed. I would just let him do it
and dig a deeper hole for his party in in 2008.
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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 05:53 PM
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19. The Demos may be powerless but not the people...
We could stop this country dead in it's tracks...

Stop buying everything but the barest of essentials.

Give it about 1 month.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-07-07 06:41 PM
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20. yes he will
what does "before his power is taken away" mean? that is not happening any time soon.
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