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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 04:23 PM
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Finally saw Saddam Hussein hanging video
I've heard people call it sickening, but it's so grainy & jerky that it's hardly offensive at all. I was asked about it by some of my school kids and so I scoured around to find it. Would I be wrong to let a few of my honor students come in and see it after school? My first thought was to get permission slips from their parents, but my second thought was that maybe I don't wanna create a paper trail.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 04:24 PM
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1. I'd let them find it themselves if they really want to see it.
Don't want to create a scandal.

And I agree, it's not that jarring as a piece of video per se, mostly because it's so crappy.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 04:24 PM
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2. Don't do it.
I wouldn't like it if my kid (15 & 11) had a teacher
show it to them. Let them find it on their own, if
they've the stomach for it, or come to me.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 04:25 PM
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3. bad bad bad idea
why open yourself up to the kind of trouble that could cause?
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 04:27 PM
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7. NO WAY: Would not say anything that might be construed as if you were encouraging them to view
Edited on Wed Jan-03-07 04:34 PM by wake.up.america
No way. The kids know exactly where to go if they want.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 04:26 PM
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4. yeah, the video itself is not offensive, however the context is, IMO
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 04:26 PM
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5. I have refused to look
I was watching the Young Turks yesterday morning and when they started to show the video, I turned it off.
I think parents might get upset if it was showed to their kids without their knowledge. I know I would.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 04:27 PM
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6. Bad idea IMO--even making the offer will get you in trouble
If anything, tell them that you've seen it but insist that you won't provide a YouTube link or anything similar.

If they want to see it, they'll find it. Don't put yourself on the chopping block.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 04:29 PM
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8. To what end?
I can see no good coming from watching a man being hanged. Violence begets violence.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 04:50 PM
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14. good question- that deserves to be asked, and
answered.

Personally, i believe this video should be REQUIRED viewing by anyone who has any access to any media. And i believe it is essential for people to bear WITNESS to the things being done, and enabled In OUR Name, with our sanction, and using our manpower and funds-

Why?
Because out of sight is out of mind. Because 'hearing' about something- and having to bear witness to it are miles apart.

Should we see what evidence exists from the holocaust? ABSOLUTELY- why? because we are feeding a morbid side of our psyche? Or because if we KNOW what truly happened, and we don't try to belittle or minimize the impact that ACTIONS have on life in this world, we have a hope of preventing it being repeated, or allowed.

Also, when people avoid or deny things that are troubling, or controversial, then the victims are shamed right along with those who should be the ones facing ridicule or rebuke. (and while Saddam clearly victimized many people, in his state sanctioned lynching he WAS the victim)

Denial and avoidance of the ugly, unpleasant, evil, horrendous acts that humans commit against one another only serves to allow it to continue and flourish.

Can i get a witness?
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 04:32 PM
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9. Disasterous idea.
Don't do it if you want to keep your job. And I don't see what they would gain from seeing it.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 12:58 PM
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25. I agree, it is a disastrous idea!
Kids can watch it on their own on YouTube.

The video shows that Saddam was lynched by al-Sadr's militia, and that he died a martyr's death (to the Sunnis).
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 04:36 PM
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10. Wait until the Director's Cut comes out
There's outtakes and bloopers, from what I've heard. Plus a nice commentary from some of the guards.

:sarcasm:
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datadiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 04:37 PM
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11. Oh no, don't do it.
All you would need would be one freeper parent and you would be looking for work. If they want to see it, they will find it.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 04:47 PM
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12. Keep your job and DONT do it! n/t
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 04:48 PM
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13. Don't do it. The kids are not your friends.
A French teacher friend of mine was badgered by friendly kids wanting to know some dirty words in French. He finally gave in and complied. Sure enough, word got around and a parent complained to the principal. My friend, serving as a temporary replacement, was not invited back next fall. Kids cannot be trusted to keep secrets. They tell their friends, and their friends tell their parents. Before you know it, someone's out of a job.
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 05:08 PM
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15. Your honor students

...probably found the video faster than you.

Stay away from this...it's toxic.

Cheers
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 05:18 PM
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16. Yes. That would be beyond wrong, imo.
I don't know why anyone would want to watch such a thing to begin with; if they are honor students, they can find it on their own. Can they not discuss the hanging without watching it? What is the point in seeing it, other than to feed the worst of human nature?
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 11:18 PM
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17. I can't believe you even asked this question. You know damn
well that you shouldn't show it to your students.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 11:37 PM
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18. The post hanging footage was disturbing.
If you don't think about what was at the end of the drop down there below the trap door, it was just a man dropping out of sight with a noose around his neck. What you don't see is the sudden stop, the rope tightening, his head violently jerking to one side. I'm glad I didn't see that.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 10:17 AM
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19. IF you showed that to MY honor student child, w/o my knowledge....
I'd have your job for it, and if I couldn't succeed in that, then I would raise so much hell, you'd be afraid to show your face..and yes, parents do have the right to make this decision...this is NOT something I would want my kid to be shown, whether or not they were on the honor roll....
windbreeze

ps: IF you are worried about creating a paper trail....doesn't that kinda tell you that what you are considering is way out of line???
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 12:01 PM
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20. it was scarier than "The Blair Witch Project"
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 12:05 PM
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21. "Heidi" was scarier than Blair Witch ...
:rofl:

Bake
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 12:20 PM
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23. I seriously got nauseous from it (motion sickness)
an opverated, monumental piece of shit.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 12:19 PM
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22. your "honor students" aren't very smart
if they cannot find the g.d. thing for themselves. And inviting people to view a hanging - f***ing tasteless.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 12:26 PM
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24. Dumb, dumb idea
on so many levels.
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fuzzyball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 01:40 PM
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26. Good idea! May put the fear in their minds about getting in trouble.
I am all for the death penalty and public executions
of vile criminals such as Gacy, Speck, Green river killer etc.
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