Hillary beats McCain and Giuliani nationally and hasn't stepped foot in Iowa in years

[Herman Munster]

Things will change once Hillary starts campaigning and pumps her millions and she brings out the attack dogs to bring down Obama and Edwards. The 4th place poll actually is probably good news for her in a way as it lowers expectations for her in Iowa and takes some of the pressure off her being the national frontrunner.

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/14195

Polling Data

Possible match-ups - 2008 U.S. presidential election

John McCain (R) 43% - 50% Hillary Rodham Clinton (D)
Rudy Giuliani (R) 47% - 48% Hillary Rodham Clinton (D)
Mitt Romney (R) 32% - 58% Hillary Rodham Clinton (D)

John McCain (R) 45% - 43% Barack Obama (D)
Rudy Giuliani (R) 47% - 44% Barack Obama (D)
Mitt Romney (R) 25% - 55% Barack Obama (D)

[sandnsea]

1. Are you really a supporter?

You think you're going to win grassroots people over with Hillary pumping her millions and bringing out her attack dogs? That's the key thing I hate about her. Iowa will too.

[Radical Activist]

3. Wasn't Gephardt the Iowa attack dog in '04?

We see where that got him. You make a good point.

[Herman Munster]

5. I'm not trying to win support for Hillary

I'm just telling it like it is. Whoever the democrats nominate, i'll vote for. But I would prefer someone with a lot of experience.

[IndianaGreen]

6. Hillary's experience includes voting for IWR and PATRIOT

and unlike Kerry and Edwards, she is still unrepentant about her war vote.

That's the sort of experience the Beltway is teeming with, and look where it got us!

[nealmhughes]

12. Don't forget Feinstein-Leahy ban on civilian use on cluster bombs....

Hill was a "Nay..."

Nuff said for me.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

2. Hey, can we sic Guiliani on McCain? That would be much more gratifying.

MKJ

[elperromagico]

8. If they're in a primary together, they'll do plenty of siccing themselves.

It's going to be fun to watch the Big Dogs of the GOP hacking away at each other.

[PresidentObama]

4. One year is a long time......

Just remember that. The election of 2008 is already a hot topic, but it's too early to call it for Hillary Rodham Clinton. And I think a lot of Democrats have questions about Mrs. Clinton they'd like answered, and issues they'd like brought up.

We've got a long road ahead. Polls are fun, and tell us where we are at this point and time. But right now, they mean VERY little when you consider the final results.

[elperromagico]

7. Here's what I see in any of these poll numbers:

We can beat any of their heavy hitters. Any of them.

The midterms have helped us immeasurably. We are now the winners; we go into '08 with a home field advantage we didn't enjoy in '04.

I would be fascinated to see Edwards' numbers. Oh wait, he's not a major contender... not like a Mitt Romney, who can't even manage a third of the vote in either of these polls.

[dorktv]

9. I just want to call McCain senator seesaw.

and what about Brownback?

[elperromagico]

10. Sam Brokeback or Sam Greenback for now.

We're still in beta testing on those...

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

11. "beta testing"...

:rolf:

MKJ

[dorktv]

14. Greenback? More like brokeback.

[MrRobotsHolyOrders]

13. Attack dogs

The quickets way in the universe to see Hillary drop into signle digits would be to go negative on two guys who've built their public persona on progressive optimism and sunshine.

[JI7]

15. there has been some talk she may skip the Iowa Caucuses

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[k_jerome]

17. it is between Hillary and Obama. Everyone else is an also ran. nt.

[snowbear]

18. Ah c'mon... for all we know neither Hillary or Barack may even run..

Here's what I can't deal with as far as Hillary.

America cannot stand to go close to THREE DECADES with the same two families !!!! We need a new face ----- fresh blood --- someone BESIDES a Bush or a Clinton!

By the time Shrub finishes this second term.. we are at years of Bush and Clintons!

Bush <4> + Clinton <8> + Bush <8> = 20 years!

I don't give a crap what the media says... it's not between anybody and anybody ---- YET.

[k_jerome]

20. agreed. just going off what the situation looks like today. nt.

[Clark2008]

21. Wow! Got your Magic 8-Ball out?

Because, seems to me, that the front runner in the Democratic primary this early on NEVER gets the nomination.

I seem to recall that Lieberman led the pack in late 2002. :rofl: That worked out well, didn't it?

[Leilani]

19. I don't see any validity in this poll

Are these people likely voters?

Registered voters?

It's too early, we don't know the candidate field on either side, & I don't know anyone who likes Hillary.

Maybe she has fans at DU, but not in real life.

[Clark2008]

22. I keep wondering who these 30-some-odd percent of the people

are in the polls the corporate media pushes. I don't know 30 people who support her, much less 30 percent of any given population of any determined size.

:shrug:

[Blue_In_AK]

23. Me either...

Not one.

[IndianaGreen]

24. Bush also has a rock solid 30 percent

I think they are all cut from the same mold.