Bayh Out, Warner Reconsidering?

[JABBS]

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[IndianaGreen]

1. Kinda early for candidates to start to flip flop, isn't it?

But Warner is not Hillary, so if he wants to change his mind and run, go ahead.

[JABBS]

2. i don't know how seriously warner is reconsidering

seems like a longshot, but apparently there was some talk on the sunday talk show circuit.

[nickshepDEM]

3. I wish.

He wont run though. I wouldnt be suprised if he landed on the ticket as VP.

[JABBS]

4. that's one reason to reconisder

even a small play in the 08 race might give him a higher profile as a veep candidate.

because his excuse, that this would take time away from him being with his family, would be equally a problem if he were the VP candidate, right?

it's a tough call either way.

[bigdarryl]

6. A Governor as a VP candidate I don't think so

[Parisle]

5. By all means,... let him reconsider,.....

--- I don't even consider it to be a "flip-flop,' really. And I sure as hell don't trust the recent flurry of media attention directed at Senators Clinton and Obama. Somebody is being set up, it would appear. The GOP has planned an opposition to Hillary for years,.. rightwingers have fantasized about a chance to oppose her in 2008. So, is a right-wing media attempting to "decoy" her into the nomination,... only to re-focus on her "baggage" once the nomination is hers? Or to create the mirage of a struggle between Clinton and Obama (for fun & profit)? Those are my fears. The media wants everything at the level of fake wrestling.

---And Obama is still sort of untested and inexperienced, eh? Remember the nature of the fight we're in,........ up against wildly efficient global corporatists, and our own home-grown nazis. I suspect the 2008 election will be among the bloodiest in US history, metaphorically speaking. We can't spend the whole goddamned campaign talking about Vince Foster and Travelgate,.. and we can't nominate on the basis of Obama's ample charisma, either.

---Warner's return to the race would be a welcome one. After all, he's been the best governor in the country in the state which practically houses the federal government. Wesley Clark is still my own personal favorite,... Gore's credentials certainly surpass those of Clinton or Obama. Edwards is back. Feingold and Kucinich are perhaps our two most prodigious thinkers.

---A nomination-election process revolving around Hillary or Obama will be either a big-money power politics deal or a trivializing media circus,.. as well as a socio-political experiment in either case. Can the democrats get serious, get over themselves... and make a truly shrewd and effective choice?

[JABBS]

7. good point

I've long thought that the GOP wanted to run against Hillary, so they keep touting her as the presumptive nominee, the heavy favorite, etc. I'm sure the GOP would love to run against Obama, too.

Meanwhile, Edwards leads in early Iowa polling, for what that's worth. And an Edwards/Warner ticket would not be high on the GOP list of things to run against.