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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 08:08 PM
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Rumor has it Hillary is more afraid of a Edwards candidacy than an Obama one
Edited on Sun Dec-17-06 08:08 PM by bigdarryl
that was told by David Brooks on Tweety's show this morning.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 08:21 PM
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1. Rumor has it that if Hillary runs she won't win
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 08:22 PM
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3. We'll Know It's True If...
Carville starts sputtering that Edwards' eats newborns to keep his hair looking so great.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 08:22 PM
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4. of course she is -- Edwards is more of a threat in the primaries
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brazos121200 Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 08:25 PM
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5. I believe it. Edward is the only potential candidate
who could derail Hillary's candidacy. He has the money, support, experience, and personality to beat her in the primaries, especially in the south. I don't think he actually will, but he has the potential. Obama is just too new, he has a great personality but also has a lot of handicaps (name, lack of experience in national politics, money, race). Of course, Al Gore could give her a run for her money, but he has said he's no longer interested in politics. I don't know if I believe that or not, but he seems to be pretty serious.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 07:09 AM
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16. Experience at what? Running for president? n/t
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 08:31 PM
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6. Edwards/Hillary
Obama is raising a lot of money, but Bill Clinton has said that Edwards is a great candidate in 2004, so it does not surprise me that Edwards is the greater threat to Hillary.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 08:32 PM
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7. I just know the period between now & November 2008
is gonna make me totally nuts. I don't have much equanimity or balance left after everything since 2000. I think it would be best for me to get off the Internets, cancel the paper & go hibernate somewhere for 2 years. But of course I know I won't do that.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 09:11 PM
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8. I doubt it. n/t
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 09:24 PM
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9. heard it and that really spiced up the field
I like the fact that we have a plethora of strong candidates.
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 09:40 PM
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10. All Edwards has to do is start spouting his 'fighter for the little guy" vs. Hillary dining with
Rupert and Newt...

Do public penance continually for his Iraq vote, and he's got half his primary victories wrapped up. Come out strong for the environment, against NAFTA and CAFTA, and for universal health care and he's got them all wrapped up.

Whomever attacks "free trade" vs. "Fair Trade" has the entire Lou Dobbs crowd bought hook line and sinker.

It is going to be imperative in my opinion to win in the primaries and in 08. That and health care. The troops in their barracks will be the hat trick.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 10:12 PM
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12. And add being for public financing of campaigns....I perked up on that
one...
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 10:02 PM
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11. David Brooks knows jackshit. Whatever he says, I believe the opposite
Read his work. He is ALWAYS wrong. Period.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 10:14 PM
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13. She knows Edwards is appealing in many ways beyond mere media hype.
Obama also has skeletons in his closet that are sure to come out. His star will fizzle fast if he runs, but since he won't be running (mark my words) that's all irrelevant.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 10:04 PM
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24. This is uncalled for
Are you applying to be the new Karl Rove? IF there are skeltons in anyones's closet thaye will likely be found out. Stating as a given that any canmdidate has skeletons is disgusting.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 11:41 PM
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14. She should be.
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election_2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 03:03 AM
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15. I think she's afraid of BOTH of them....
Especially if Obama decides to mount a serious campaign.

She's probably also very nervous about the idea of a Clark candidacy too....although her friends in the MSM are doing their best to maintain the moratorium on any mention of Clark's name in the headlines.
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 06:24 PM
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17. Edwards
Edwards needs to keep playing John Mellencamp songs - "This is our country", and it will brainwash everbody into voting for him.

why is that commmercial always on...why!!!
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 07:13 PM
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19. Chevy has it
so be it..
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 12:35 PM
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26. cougar
Yeah, but we're still go to hear "jack and diane" every time he goes on stage. Besides Mellencamp can sell his songs to anyone - and he supports Edwards so now all he has to do is play 'pink houses' and everyone will vote for him.
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 01:34 PM
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27. Aw, come on...
I think there are plenty of folks who will run that will make the race interesting.

But I happen to like "Our Country". The lyrics do seem to fit Edwards' theme pretty well.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:18 PM
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28. Mellencamp's "Small Town" was his theme in '04
"...But Ive seen it all in a small town
Had myself a ball in a small town
Married an l.a. doll and brought her to this small town
Now shes small town just like me

No I cannot forget where it is that I come from
I cannot forget the people who love me
Yeah, I can be myself here in this small town
And people let me be just what I want to be

Got nothing against a big town
Still hayseed enough to say
Look whos in the big town
But my bed is in a small town
Oh, and thats good enough for me..."
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 06:35 PM
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18. Edwards could end up doing better in the Midwest and South than Hillary could, and that...
is what Hillary has to worry about.
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 07:16 PM
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20. Hillary has more to worry about in my view
It's not just that she is contacting folks about the direction our country is going in or should go in...it's that she has no vision in what it should go in or any heart in which it could. It's about polls and her ego.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 07:18 PM
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21. I don't subscribe to rumors
particularly when it presumes to state how someone else feels. However, I will say that IMO it is a good thing that there are several strong contenders in the field because the competition will only serve to strengthen the ultimate candidate that gets the nod.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:30 PM
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29. I'm proud to be a Dem right now!
Our field is fabulous :loveya:

I like lurking on the GOP blogs (not freepervilles), and I just don't get the sense of the passion any of them have about any in the GOP field. After the holidays, I'll put a post together with links to some really thought provoking conservative blogs that are nicer discussing our Democratic candidates than their own :D

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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 07:28 PM
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22. She ought to fear both. They will both be more popular and are better choices.
And yes, I say this as a Clark supporter.

Give me Edwards or Obama over Hillary any day.

Hillary is NOT going to be our nominee. Mark my words (or bookmark, whatever).
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 04:36 PM
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30. I agree
I will take any democratic candidate over Hillary any day.
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 08:22 PM
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23. Brooks is an ass, who cares what he says.
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hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-19-06 12:22 PM
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25. I can't imagine why she would be.

he is a completely known quantity, and is best known for
not winning. he is a senator (not good as far as presidential
politics go) that only served a single term (even worse) because
there was serious doubt as to whether or not he could win reelection
(worse yet).

AND he has been on the campaign trail for two solid years, and
can't seem to put any distance between himself and the rest of
the pack.

now, he did seem to show a periodic spark on the campaign trail,
and one of his biggest problems seemed to be that the kerry people
buried him in backwaters for nearly the entire election. perhaps
they were afraid edwards would outshine the guy at the top of the
ticket, who knows?

but he needs more than his "two americas" speech.

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